CarpeDeezNutz
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Report: Trump's call to Mexican president was done in humiliating and threatening way
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I think is more related to a general disbelief that our government is able to handle situations like this due corruption and conflicts of interest that have plagued this administration. In other words, is hard to trust a president that has shown its inability to solve anything during his mandate.
BobTheFork
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FFS, even my boss at working now is playing the 'impeached, assassinated or heart attack' game.
I picked heart attack.
I picked heart attack.
Hari Seldon
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It was after that Thin Red Line business. The Brits voted not too, so Obama went to Congress and Congress said no because poles were overwhelmingly against it.
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2016/04/the-obama-doctrine/471525/
I can't find the exact pole numbers from the time, but I remember being shocked at how overwhelming they were against it.
Regulus Tera
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I remember I mentioned this possibility in one of the previous threads about EPN and people were calling hte discussion ridiculous. Wish I were not right.
As I've said before, Aristegui usually nails the news with solid sources, but the article is written to paint Peña as a coward that will cave to Trump's wishes.
Peña is a very disliked president (and deservedly so). A lot of mexicans have preconceived opinions about him. Being a pussy that will do everything that the us tell him is one of the most popular.
In summary, any action that's not Peña telling Trump to fuck off will be seen by a lot of people as a sign of weakness.
Sr Kitsune
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Is any country bound to defend us if we get invaded? If not, we should be looking to China or Russia. You know, to get a "don't mess with me, or my brother will hurt you"
DUH! He was big in the 80's and is STUCK in the 80's
. So ofcourse he wants to get the Coke out of Mexico. Cheney was addicted to Oil, so invade Iraq. Trump is Cocaine person, so Columbia is next .Funky Papa
FUNK-Y-PPA-4
Funny you mention it. Not so long ago I was checking information about the Mexican military and I was utterly shocked by how the Mexican military has no tanks nor fighter jets. Then again, it has little to fear from Guatemala and Belize is far from being Latveria, so it stands for reason that kind of hardware would be kind of wasted on the country.
What would be the American equivalent of Putin's little green men anyway?
Regulus Tera
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I mean it's not like Polk's invasion of Mexico was justified back when it happened the first time around, but I do agree a hypothetical Trump intervention would take the crown.
Jesus it's upsetting that this is probably the exact thing so many people are probably saying or think.
Regulus Tera
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We've long assumed we had the United States behind our backs, considering how much we contribute to their economy.
Khalifa Jayy
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That's what I haven't been able to understand either. Weird sentiment.
BronzeWolf
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John Rabbit
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I live in Arizona. Trust me, we need "the Mexicans".
Hmm never thought of it that way . I mean India is flanked by china and pak so we just keep on arming up . Swiss have 60 but I guess Cold War and stuff.
RoyaleDuke
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And yet GOP and Trump literally said they are willing to do business with the Narcos to build the wall. I guess people in similar jobs like oppressing people, do tend to work better together.
Christ, what a fucking disgusting situation. I went to the food bank today and there were a lot of people discussing the Trump Muslim Ban, I entered the fray when one of them talked about her friend who goes to UNC being detained because she took a trip to one of the seven countries that have been included in the ban. She is currently being detained in a prison cell. In America.
So we are gonna invade the middle east and Mexico.
neat. Holy fucking shit, I can totally believe Trump threatening the president of Mexico with invasion.
And there it is, in none too unsubtle words.
Phhh naw. I can't wait to earn $50 an hour picking heads of lettuce. America is great again!
Corronchilejano
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DEVGRU units massacring cartels or outright arming the local population along the northern border.
Plenty of militas that would kill for that opportunity, no pun intended. Just give them some "surplus" equipment, promise to bring the big guns when the fighting gets a bit hot and they'd be crossing the Rio Grande tomorrow. I don't think even Putin had it that easy.
Yeah, it's dawned on me in the last few days that Trump is probably used to being a dictator, because that's how he ran his business. He's at the point where he should realise that international politics doesn't work that way - but it really doesn't look like he has.
People have no clue. They are going to miss undocumented workers when they are gone. When farms, these smaller companies have to start paying employees competitive wages, and business go bankrupt and prices sky rocket, they are going to be wondering just what the fuck they did.
There isn't a White guy I know that will pick lettuce in the Arizona heat for even $20 an hour, let alone $10.
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Vilix
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I'd really like more confirmation before believing this happened.
gamerMan
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It's what Donald Trump does to everybody. If you don't agree with him, he goes nuclear and wants to start a war. God it must have be rough for his wife, but now the man has the most powerful nation in the history of the world behind him. The man is looking to start a war with any country that gets in his way so he can get the economy growing.
Hyperactivity
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20th century, Mexican revolution
Was utterly humiliating for the united States. Utter failure of a campaign
SapphiCine
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Good god. We are so fucked.
Relaxed Muscle
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Seems like Nieto was overwhelmed by Trump and looked weak, he even babbled and keep insisting in a constructive relationship between both countries.
Maybe he didn't expected such aggresiveness, but still seems like he kinda pissed his pants.
Well, now the US has nukes and a president who has asked why they are not being used...
So give money to the US?
If he thinks his "I'm not satisfied with one particular detail of this work so I'm not going to pay for it" style is going to play on the world stage... wow.
Stairs.
Alex_Mexico
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Did the US invaded Mexico during the Mexican Revolution? Im not sure but even if they did that was 107 years ago.
My God is Trump shit.
BronzeWolf
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EPN should be picking the phone to China
SporeCrawler
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can you blame him. the only superpower in the world is threatening to invade you
alfredofroylan
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Nocturno999
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Remember that this is still a rumor. Aristegui is trustful but Dolia didn't sound that much to me in that conversation.
It seems like Trump pulled a tantrum. This may be a reason why the conversation was held secret.
It seems like Trump pulled a tantrum. This may be a reason why the conversation was held secret.
iRAWRasaurus
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"Remember no Russian"
Dark Cloud
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Does Trump think this is a video game to where he's going to send troops here and there?
Jmanunknown
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I do not know why some people are having such a hard time believing this. Its not out of character for Trump at all. I guess some people have already forgotten Trump pulled this same stunt with the city of Chicago a couple of weeks ago.
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