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[CrAzY FiNgErS]

That's vague. Either means A) they are tired of false leaks coming, B) Tired of leaks in general, or C) It's real and isn't happy a leak occurred.

That's why the man himself needs to come in here and clarify his cryptic Ascii message. To do a drive by post like that is really disappointing.

 

[FaintDeftone]

I've been following all of this craziness all day so far and I still think this is fake. Given, I'm sure something similar will be what Nintendo is working with on the NX, but this thing looks way too goofy and that image on the screen is questionable as hell. I'll be shocked if it is real.

 

[ForsakenLotus]

Well if they were smart, they would consider the center part of the controller where your hands aren't blocking anything the "safe" zone. Within that safe zone is all the important visual info like the HUD or anything else important happening visually. Then everything outside of that is kind of like if your regular monitor or TV could display what was happening just outside the actual visible screen.

But that would drive up the cost and complexity and for what purpose?

 

[Ansatz]

If you're only talking about Nintendo's handheld business, then you might have a point.

But they need third parties for their home consoles.

What if their home console is an optional form factor that plays the same games available on the handheld ?

 

[Indigo Rush]

We've been looking at this from the wrong angle

 

[exmachina64]

Western 3rd parties have nothing to do with Nintendo's success or failure in future hardware endeavours.

Bullshit.

 

[Chezzymann]

I really dont see the legitimacy of this. Patent pictures generally are crude concepts to just get the idea across. This is taking the crude ovals and circles of the patent pictures likely drawn in paint or something and taking it literally as a controller. The concept may be integrated into the controller, but I really dont think the actual thing will be literally identical to the patent image. Like someone else said i wouldn't be surprised if someone just made a super basic 3D model of the controller using some simple cylinders or something and printed it out with shapeways for cheap.

 

[Bitch Pudding]

I can't wait 3 months without knowing if this is fake or real, I can't take it

Well, this is happening so you better deal with it...

 

[orioto]

I don't think the second screen did them any favors, either. Very few games use it well enough to justify adding the expensive controller to the console's price. I think it was a mistake in that it meant they could never drop the price to a level where it would be competitive because they'd lose money.

For SURE, it was not the biggest mistake, tons of other factors added together made the wii u a failure, but the gamepad definitely didn't help it out any.

Can NX succeed if it's a Wii U 2? Possibly, but it's definitely going to jack the price of the system up if you need both a set top box AND an expensive controller with brand new free-form LED screens.

Of course the whole WiU strategy was bad. It's about strategy. But I mean having a second screen (but this time, not with a tech that makes the console too expensive) is nothing bad, and may even be needed (if portable is like 3ds and they want its games to be playable on the home console). They just need to have something else to market it cause it won't be enough obviously. It has to be a transparent feature that doesn't cost much.

That whole non rectangular screen.. We have no clue what it costs. I wouldn't believe it personally anyway. Except for something that would allow a screen (if they need it) in the pad/portable, while keeping room for buttons and a good ergonomics. That's the whole point of it for me.

 

[georly]

Would you expect the next Nintendo handheld to be able to run a newest UE4 demo? A 2 year old demo sounds about right for Nintendo!



Guess that could work, but still I don't see anything real special about it, is Wii U pad 2.0.

Well, it enables you to label your buttons, or highlight ones that you should press, rather than having a box on the screen TELL you which buttons to press or which buttons do what. It makes it newcomer friendly. No more "what button do I press" stuff.

That whole non rectangular screen.. We have no clue what it costs. I wouldn't believe it personally anyway. Except for something that would allow a screen (if they need it) in the pad/portable, while keeping room for buttons and a good ergonomics. That's the whole point of it for me.

Well, if it's the new gamepad, it's probably safe to assume it costs AT LEAST as much as a gamepad, which isn't all that cheap compared to manufacturing a standard controller.

 

[jmizzal]

Looks like I was right. Nintendo didn't learn shit from WiiU. NX will make WiiU sales look like PS4-tier.

what does a handheld have to do with WiiU?

 

[Calvero]

Rostii:

So literally nothing said. Could literally mean both that it's fake and that it's real.

 

[Lernaean]

This is definitely real. No doubt about it.

 

[10k]

Rostii:

Vague as hell. Even more annoying than the hex post.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

If the final product looks like this... i think it could work.

That missile placement is hot.

 

[ec0ec0]

I can't wait 3 months without knowing if this is fake or real, I can't take it

It's been some hours and i still haven't recovered one bit. 3 months!?

 

[Griss]

Looks exactly like patent drawing
+
image is cropped from a tech demo
+
is the stupidest thing I've ever seen
=
probably fake, Rosti notwithstanding.

However, I don't consider it impossible that the NX ends up doing something like this.

The fact that the image ended up being from an Unreal Engine 4 demo that uses touch input is actually a plus point for 'team real'. It's exactly the sort of thing a dev would get up and running in the first days of having a devkit to see how the system operates and how it handles the engine they make games with (assuming they're using unreal, etc)

Rostii:

What a load of shit-stirring bullshit. "Doing my part"? What part exactly?

 

[Papacheeks]

Western 3rd parties have nothing to do with Nintendo's success or failure in future hardware endeavours.

You are full of shit.

The fact that the image ended up being from an Unreal Engine 4 demo that uses touch input is actually a plus point for 'team real'. It's exactly the sort of thing a dev would get up and running in the first days of having a devkit to see how the system operates and how it handles the engine they make games with (assuming they're using unreal, etc)

Wow didn't think of that, good point. Like a tech demo to see how functionality is on a basic hardware level.

 

[KratosEnergyDrink]

I really dont see the legitimacy of this. Patent pictures generally are crude concepts to just get the idea across. This is taking the crude ovals and circles of the patent pictures likely drawn in paint or something and taking it literally as a controller. The concept may be integrated into the controller, but I really dont think the actual thing will be literally identical to the patent image. Like someone else said i wouldn't be surprised if someone just made a super basic 3D model of the controller using some simple cylinders or something and printed it out with shapeways for cheap.

You are right. Some people really don't know what patent pictures are, or don't care. It is obvious that this picture is a fake.

The guy who made this picture is rolling laughing on the floor right now.

 

[SJRB]

I'm so confused by this design, I don't understand the point of a full display controller.

What benefits could it possibly have?

 

[Doctre81]

Western 3rd parties have nothing to do with Nintendo's success or failure in future hardware endeavours.

Uhh WiiU?

 

[-Horizon-]

Rostii:

That explains didly squat. Could still go either way.

 

[Plinko]

How in the world are some of you interpreting Rosti's post of "This should NOT have been leaked" as "No, this isn't real?"

 

[Ishida]

I'm so confused by this design, I don't understand the point of a full display controller.

What benefits could it possibly have?

It's 'different'.

That's all Nintendo wants.

 

[Kouriozan]

Nintendo leaking like crazy since the start of this year confirmed.

 

[Ansatz]

You are full of shit.

It just means Nintendo will never be able to attract the audience that's into Ass Creed, GTA, Witcher, etc. which is true.

So if NX is successful it'll be like a Wii situation.

 

[catbrush]

I'm so confused by this design, I don't understand the point of a full display controller.

What benefits could it possibly have?

Immersion, because the display would fill a significant portion of a person's field of view.

 

[E-Cat]

Well, it enables you to label your buttons, or highlight ones that you should press, rather than having a box on the screen TELL you which buttons to press or which buttons do what. It makes it newcomer friendly. No more "what button do I press" stuff.

Definitely worth doing another gimmicky console over.

 

[Kouriozan]

Wait, we still need Nintendo to say

We don't comment on rumors and speculation.

 

[Doctre81]

It just means Nintendo will never be able to attract the audience that's into Ass Creed, GTA, Witcher, etc. which is true.

So if NX is successful it'll be like a Wii situation.

Those same people all bought wii's. What gamer do you know that never owned a wii?

 

[Graphics Horse]

I really dont see the legitimacy of this. Patent pictures generally are crude concepts to just get the idea across. This is taking the crude ovals and circles of the patent pictures likely drawn in paint or something and taking it literally as a controller. The concept may be integrated into the controller, but I really dont think the actual thing will be literally identical to the patent image. Like someone else said i wouldn't be surprised if someone just made a super basic 3D model of the controller using some simple cylinders or something and printed it out with shapeways for cheap.

Actually the patent used pentagons instead of circular sticks
If the patent was a crude 16:9 rectangle and had a matching photo would you feel the same? I don't think there's much space for design beyond the bezel. You could add handles of course, but some people think the absence of handles proves it's fake....

 

[Wishmaster92]

i don't understand why you would think that.
Here is a different video of the same flythrough with the ui thing at the top:
http://youtu.be/jzGRbGb-fog

If this is real and its the mobile nx and not the console then It's really impressive .

 

[Peru]

Virtual buttons ala smartphones - no thanks. But if there's some new weird technology that makes the screen buttons pop up.. uh, sure.

You are full of shit.

The 3DS stumbled out the gate. Then it got back on its feet. Both developments independent of western 3rd party supports.

Uhh WiiU?

Wii U was too pricey for what it offered, with too few games. Simple as that. Look at the Gamecube. Powerful. Several high profile deals with 3rd parties to get ports AND exclusives. It failed. They need to look at the 3DS as an example: Solid 1st party and Japanese 3rd party support gets them a market of their own big enough to support them in the future.

 

[cyberheater]

Someone doesn't look right with that controller. The bottom edge of the screen isn't horizontal to the device.

 

[Ansatz]

Those same people all bought wii's. What gamer do you know that never owned a wii?

The Wii/DS expanded audience are now predominantly mobile gamers, those are the ones Nintendo wants to attract on NX. The same people who bought 360 for Kinect and who now abandoned the Xbox brand.

 

[Mariolee]

Man this thread blew up since yesterday. Did a video get released or something?

 

[orioto]

Well, if it's the new gamepad, it's probably safe to assume it costs AT LEAST as much as a gamepad, which isn't all that cheap compared to manufacturing a standard controller.

Why ? The gamepad wasn't expensive cause of the screen in itself. It was expensive cause of the wireless video tech i believe.

 

[notaskwid]

Western 3rd parties have nothing to do with Nintendo's success or failure in future hardware endeavours.

Keep repeating that when trying to fall asleep at night.

 

[Doctre81]

The Wii/DS expanded audience are now predominantly mobile gamers, those are the ones Nintendo wants to attract on NX. The same people who bought 360 for Kinect and who now abandoned the Xbox brand.

Again... how many gamers do you know that did not own a Wii? It was bought but casuals AND the hardcore.

 

[Graphics Horse]

Someone doesn't look right with that controller. The bottom edge of the screen isn't horizontal to the device.

Perspective. The pic is either a real device, a home made physical mockup or a very good render, it isn't some wonky photoshop.

 

[CharminUltra]

Guys, I just got confirmation that I still have no idea if this is fake or not.

 

[Papacheeks]

Virtual buttons ala smartphones - no thanks. But if there's some new weird technology that makes the screen buttons pop up.. uh, sure.




The 3DS stumbled out the gate. Then it got back on its feet. Both developments independent of western 3rd party supports.



Wii U was too pricey for what it offered, with too few games. Simple as that. Look at the Gamecube. Powerful. Several high profile deals with 3rd parties to get ports AND exclusives. It failed. They need to look at the 3DS as an example: Solid 1st party and Japanese 3rd party support gets them a market of their own big enough to support them in the future.

What? 3DS took a price hit within 6 months and had compelling software on both first and third party.

Resident evil revelations made a big splash, and so did street fighter on 3DS.

So no your wrong. Also add in Monster hunter, it's from third party. A paid third party exclusive, but not made by Nintendo.

Those are what Wii U lacked. They had a couple in the beginning, but did shit to promote them as home console is a different market than handheld and has more competition.

 

[Z3M0G]

Ok this thread seems to have exploded over the past few hours... did I miss something new?

 

[marmoka]

I've been absent for the last 3 hours. Did I miss something interesting? When I left everyone was discussing Rosti's polemic post.

 

[Agent Unknown]

Were there patents back in 2000/2001 which showed an accurate representation layout of say, the GameCube controller? I just find it hard to believe Nintendo would be so incompetent as to allow a highly accurate portrayal of what the final controller's appearance and actual configuration will be in publicly available patent docs.

Team fake, but also surprised none of the major sites are at least reporting this. We need a source to chime in at some point.

 

[ElectricBlanketFire]

Ok this thread seems to have exploded over the past few hours... did I miss something new?

Nope.

 

[skypunch]

Keep repeating that when trying to fall asleep at night.

This is the most unintentionally serial killer-ish thing I've ever heard, lol.

 

[Herb Alpert]

What? 3DS took a price hit within 6 months and had compelling software on both first and third party.

Resident evil revelations made a big splash, and so did street fighter on 3DS.

So no your wrong. Also add in Monster hunter, it's from third party. A paid third party exclusive, but not made by Nintendo.

Those are what Wii U lacked. They had a couple in the beginning, but did shit to promote them as home console is a different market than handheld and has more competition.

You wish monster hunter was paid. But this is not the point here.

 

[georly]

Definitely worth doing another gimmicky console over.

If the goal is to attract new players to traditional video game controls, it's a good way to do it.

Why ? The gamepad wasn't expensive cause of the screen in itself. It was expensive cause of the wireless video tech i believe.

And if this is the gamepad for the NX, why wouldn't you assume this, too, will have the same tech? So now you have the expensive wireless tech AND a new screen? The screen on the gamepad was a 480p, cheapo touch screen like the DS bottom screen. This looks like a free-form display with touch tech similar to a smartphone. So the screen is almost assuredly more expensive than the one in the gamepad *PLUS* the cost of the gamepad tech built in, this will DEFINITELY be more expensive than the gamepad.

 

[Little Mons†er]

This MESS of a thREAD

UttER Tragic for such an ICONIC company