Metalmurphy
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It was released in February. Game released in March. Are you saying it was an older build then what they had in February? Probably, and the same is most likely the case with Drive Club.
GT5 did it on PS3.
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Sorry, Drive Club is the worst looking Sony exclusive.
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It was released in February. Game released in March. Are you saying it was an older build then what they had in February? Probably, and the same is most likely the case with Drive Club.
GT5 did it on PS3.
Monty Mole
Member
Is Drive Club definitely fully open world like Forza Horizon? If so, then that's explains a hell of a lot. Open world games are never going to look as good as their linear counterparts.
HueyFreeman
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The jump from Motorstorm's first actual gameplay to it's final form was pretty huge as well. At least some of the pop in and shadowing issues will probably be fixable prior to release, but yeah I'd agree - probably featuring it at this point up against Forza 5 (and GT5 strangely enough) was probably unwise.
I trust Evolution though - the motorstorm series was great, in spite of some visual rough edges. It's really not the be all and end all. The course design for instance looks great.
I trust Evolution though - the motorstorm series was great, in spite of some visual rough edges. It's really not the be all and end all. The course design for instance looks great.
Metalmurphy
Member
It's not.
Can you imagine the shit storm if Driveclub, a launch title, wasn't playable at E3?
I'm guessing it was very old code, or rushed together for E3. Either way I've not been impressed by what was shown at E3 (especially after all the hype and the awesome February trailer), but have high hopes for the finished game based on Evolution's pedigree and the power of the PS4. I'm amazed how good Forza 5 already looks, though.
megashock5
Member
Has anyone who's there been able to compare DriveClub to NFS Rivals, in terms of both graphics and handling/gameplay?
Both are definitely on my radar, I have to have a racer.
Both are definitely on my radar, I have to have a racer.
Breakfast at Noon
Member
patience, you lack it.
This game is *very* difficult to film right, due to the extremely high contrast between the road at times and the sky. Miguel who is doing most of our videos tried again to make good videos, using two differently configured screens (one brighter than the other) and exposure settings on the camera. I think they look better than the two videos from before, at least
I've added these two videos to the news linked in the OP:
http://www.gamersyde.com/news_e3_two_videos_of_driveclub-14226_en.html
New vid looks much better. I'm hopeful the graphics will look fantastic by release. Quote me on it.
Yes, with unstable framerate.
Seriously people, bad recordings. Watch these two vids.
http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_driveclub_e3_gameplay_showfloor_external_view-30252_en.html
http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_driveclub_e3_gameplay_showfloor_cockpit_view-30251_en.html
Shadows and lighting are fantastic. Clouds even leaving shadows on meadows and the valley in the distance etc.
http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_driveclub_e3_gameplay_showfloor_external_view-30252_en.html
http://www.gamersyde.com/stream_driveclub_e3_gameplay_showfloor_cockpit_view-30251_en.html
Shadows and lighting are fantastic. Clouds even leaving shadows on meadows and the valley in the distance etc.
Metalmurphy
Member
Well, it was a PS3... like 6 times less powerful than a X1
That's why the car-models had less polygons than Forza4 and still unstable framerate? But we are talking about DriveClub, do we? And it looks worse than Forza. But of course there is still 70% of awesome code left.
Metalmurphy
Member
Are you serious? You brought it up. Also car models have more polygons in auto Vista only. It has less during actual races. And What's gonna be your excuse when GT6 fixes the performance problems on the even more inferior hardware?
Forza doesn't have it because of priorities of the developer, nothing more.
Context aside, you seem to have deeper knowledge when it comes to GT5. I had a discussion today on another forum about GT5: The other person argued there only two different lod-models on GT5. But really, this is crap, isn't it? I don't know of any game that doesn't use lod to reduce performance-needs. The further the distance to other cars, the less polys are to render. Do you anything regarding this explicitely?
This game doesnt even has realistic driving physics so they cant use that excuse
Simply not true it has been conformed in multiple interviews the cars are exactly the same in game and in autovista
Simply not true it has been conformed in multiple interviews the cars are exactly the same in game and in autovista
Metalmurphy
Member
GT5, has the highest poly models in Photo Travel, they are not used in races similar as to Auto Vista ones that also aren't used in race.
During the gameplay there is only one model switch afaik when cars get further away. GT6 however will use adaptive tesselation.
Besides that, Forza switches to higher poly models when using photo mode.
Metalmurphy
Member
Are you talking about F5? Cause I was talking about F4. If you are talking about F4 then... lol no.
Only one switch? This would mean one can see it, in my opinion. I would be very surprised if this is true but still this is not what the other guy meant in the other forum. He said one for gameplay, one for photo mode.
Lol.
thelastword
Banned
At this point I think Forza looks better overall, but as many have said here that is very likely to change with Evolution's graphical pedigree. It's easy to see that Forza is further along.
From the videos I've seen though, there's alot that looks impressive in Driveclub, the roads are probably the best textured roads I've seen in a racer and the debris, dust and gravel lifted when you go offroad is especially impressive and clearly above any other racer I've seen. Just look at gamersyde's latest videos to see the effects.
In any case, I dont think we're seeing the best footage of this game, what's available now is clearly not direct feed.
From the videos I've seen though, there's alot that looks impressive in Driveclub, the roads are probably the best textured roads I've seen in a racer and the debris, dust and gravel lifted when you go offroad is especially impressive and clearly above any other racer I've seen. Just look at gamersyde's latest videos to see the effects.
In any case, I dont think we're seeing the best footage of this game, what's available now is clearly not direct feed.
Metalmurphy
Member
Depends on what you mean by photo mode. If you are talking about photo travel, yes, it's a higher poly model. If you are talking about race photo mode, no,it's the same model as gameplay.
Wow the e3 build is super primitive compared to release. If they can pull off that sort of progress again, the game should rock.
PuppetMaster
Member
Disappointed by the OP. The actually looked fine.
At least evolution isn't lazy and recycle ps2 assets
No way that overall gt6 looks as good when half the cars are ass looking blocky texture models
Nope
Wow - I apologise to you. I'd heard FM5 was running on dev kits, but the Jalopnik piece might contradict that.
With your conclusion that this means it is really for Forza and therefore also have to apply to every other X1 game...
dev kits are pc's.. since they probably don't have final hardware yet. I am guessing Sony is doing something similar in their games.
Forza4 has worse car models in game than GT5. Autovista models are ~1mln poly and Forza simply can't use them in game.
Forza 5 is launch game and they had other priorities than weather or night racing.
IDK but NFS certainly looks a lot more polished/better.
http://www.gamersyde.com/download_need_for_speed_rivals_e3_gameplay-30264_en.html
You're being incredibly short-sighted in your argument.
Them dynamic cloud shadows look outstanding on the hillsides 0_0
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
What everyone should step back and do. Demos are a crazy beast and many times are much older builds than what they currently have running. Most of the time these demos are created months in advance by a dedicated team while the rest of the team moves the actual game forward.
Are we gonna argue about an E3 demo that was probably based on months old code for the next 6 months??? Code that had almost another year in development time??
Answer: Yes.
Everyone is gonna see it upon release since its basically included....there will be nothing to hide then.
Answer: Yes.
Everyone is gonna see it upon release since its basically included....there will be nothing to hide then.
But it'll be too late by then! We'd have already been suckered into buying a PS4!
my preorder is firmly in place
sleeping_dragon
Banned
hahahahah, well at least you got to give them some credit for making you laugh everyday.
OldAsUrSock
Banned
Car models had more polygons when racing. GT5's car models are the same in photo mode and racing unlike Forza 4. Forza 4 has a much higher polygon count car in Vista then when you are actually playing the game.
Evolution_1ne
Banned
lol love post like these, you can always use them to tell the people who played the game vs the ones who didn't
jacksepticeye
Member
Damn that looks rough. The initial trailers looked SO much better :/
velociraptor
Junior Member
Driveclub doesn't look that impressive to me. Sure, cockpits look nice and detailed. Sure, the it has 24 hours lighting built in. But the environments look quite low res with poor geometry. It just doesn't look as polished as FM5.
It looks 'pretty good', but not mindblowing. The reveal trailer was what got me excited.
It looks 'pretty good', but not mindblowing. The reveal trailer was what got me excited.
Two differences between this that I've noticed: Regardless of the framerate of DC, the shadows and reflections on the cars in the external view are running at the same framerate as the car itself... FM5 was definitely running at a reduced one. Same with the rear-view mirrors in-car... same framerate as the game, whereas Forza's seemed to be 30.
So I guess unless you hold FM5 up to the same level of inconsistency as DC, then it's fair to say that they're both early builds with things that can (and of course will) be improved.
FWIW, I much prefer the look of DriveClub. Colours just seem a lot more natural and muted, shadows in external cam look amazing (in FM5 I suspect they may have been a lower resolution?) and I dunno... it just looks more fun to me, I guess.
