"perfect" snes emulation of 4-5 games with who knows how much specialised code/hacks for each title. I've always maintained the position that the 3DS is somewhere around the threshold where SNES emulation should be possible, but by no means easy and far from perfect for every game.
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3DS Homebrew Channel imminent (?)
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"perfect" snes emulation of 4-5 games with who knows how much specialised code/hacks for each title. I've always maintained the position that the 3DS is somewhere around the threshold where SNES emulation should be possible, but by no means easy and far from perfect for every game.
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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I'm really glad that there's a good chance I can start importing in the near future without having to buy a separate system. As someone who's been learning Japanese for the past two years, region free is a very convenient feature to me. I'm crossing my fingers that Nintendo will get rid of it in the 3DS's successor because I'm really not interested in waiting for a hack just so a system I purchase can play everything in its own library again.
The Vita's region free sounded so amazing until Sony did that firmware update that forces you have buy multiple memory cards if you want multiple region accounts. I'm still not sure what the hell they were thinking with that.
The Vita's region free sounded so amazing until Sony did that firmware update that forces you have buy multiple memory cards if you want multiple region accounts. I'm still not sure what the hell they were thinking with that.
They were thinking they wanted people buying more systems and memory cards.
Cbajd5
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I'd believe him, but that's only in regard to this exploit that's enabling the homebrew menu itself. People will obviously try to find kernel exploits (which could be used for piracy and hacking and whatnot) using this as a starting point, but again that's something that'll happen in any situation.
Although I'm wondering myself if it'll somehow make it possible for piracy on 4.5 or below systems, since there's apparently already a kernel exploit there that's used by Gateway and other 3DS flashcart makers. I mean, it's already possible because of the flashcarts, but making it possible without the flashcarts would at least mostly stop people from profiting off of the piracy. Which in turn will make it less appealing for newer exploits to be researched by people doing it to profit, since people could probably use the exploit without buying anything off of them.
but the truly important thing we need is something that'll let us get more than 10 play coins a day without changing the date on the system
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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So dumb. I would add to that but I don't want to get too off-topic.
We don't even have texture hacks yet. It'll be years after we get that that we'd get Project M 2.0 or anything. So I wouldn't worry, at all, about that.
Willy Wanka
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Does it require a 3DS flash cart to work? I'd definitely be interested in region free and emulation but not if I have to sacrifice all online functionality to use it. Region locking handhelds is so damn boneheaded.
DrROBschiz
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Dont get your hopes up for any miracles people
This stuff is super cool but very limited and will likely remain as such.
Because there's a literal flag in the 3DS memory that controls whether games from different regions are allowed or not. The Gateway 3DS flash card can disable that flag. Of course, it only works for physical games, since accessing another region's eShop would probably be a lot more complicated.
It is unknown, however, if this will be possible with this hack, since it's supposed to be user-mode (aka: it's probably hijacking over a game, so it can only do things a game has access to do).
That flag shouldn't be able to be changed in usermode. I'm pretty sure this is going to open the door for piracy, even if it is indirectly. Unfortunate for Nintendo.
test_account
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I see. It could be hard if the access to the hardware is limited indeed.
KojiKnight
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People keep saying this... but does anyone have a source on the 3DS keeping region settings blocked behind kernel? I mean, it would make sense to do so... but Nintendo hasn't exactly shown great sense in a lot of their security issues (using the same unencrypted security code for both the GCN and Wii's DVD drive for instance).
Brawly Likes to Brawl
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Smealum himself says that it should definitely be possible, and I doubt he would claim that if Region Locking was locked within Kernal settings.
Ideally, I'd like homebrew for the 3DS/Vita to take off right at the end of their lifespans or even after, so then the impact of piracy will hopefully be minimal.
Homebrewed PSP is a thing of beauty, so the thought of these handhelds getting similar capabilities is exciting...just don't want it to impact sales and development of games in the way it seemed to on the DS/PSP =/
Homebrewed PSP is a thing of beauty, so the thought of these handhelds getting similar capabilities is exciting...just don't want it to impact sales and development of games in the way it seemed to on the DS/PSP =/
Isn't that how Nintendo does their VC emulators too, though? That is, each VC game has its own specialised emulator to make it run well.
To some extent yes. But there's probably a limit to how much time they want to spend on each VC release, whereas Namco are probably willing to invest more in a retail collection. Same reason why M2 turned down doing a MegaDrive VC emulator for 3DS but does 3D classics instead as they can justify spending more time on each game for that.
BinaryPork2737
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Maybe one day I'll be able to play Dragon Quest VII 3D now. Thanks region free homebrew.
I think a whole lot more work went into Sega and M2's 3D classics work than Namco Bandai's J Legend Collection. That's a very weird comparison.
Besides which, each SFC game at 800 yen would be more profitable than a 4980 yem collection of 3 of them plus 7 FC games. The costs actually work against what you're implying here, retail collections tend to be cheaper efforts emulation wise while individual downloads are more customized and polished.
Online worked with Wii Homebrew.
I think he means cheaters ruining the party.
ThatsMytrunks
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I for one welcome our new homebrew overlords.
Really glad I kept one of the Zelda 3DS XLs I bought on Black Friday.
Really glad I kept one of the Zelda 3DS XLs I bought on Black Friday.
Doczu
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Boxed SMT IV and Rune Factory IV (from top of my head). There are surely more games, but it depends on who want's to play what.
Infernal Monkey
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Going by Wikipedia here, purely retail-related stuff, and not including most of the shovelware:
Games Europe missed out on completely:
- Brain Age: Concentration Training (Devilish Brain Training)
- Centipede: Infestation
- Crosswords Plus
- Jaws: Ultimate Predator
- Mahjong Cub3d
- Mystery Case Files
- Rune Factory 4
- Unchained Blades
Retail games that only got an eShop release in Europe:
- Adventure Time: Hey Ice King!
- Alien Chaos 3D
- Code of Princess
- Conception II
- Crash City Mayhem
- Shin Megami Tensei IV
Starwolf_UK
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They said this a few days ago:Isn't 8.1.0 the newest version?
The tweet before talked about backing up a NAND before updating so maybe it is a case of exploit needs old version to load but will persist in newer *shrugs*confirmed 100% working on 8.1.0-19E ! we're getting closer
That is the latest firmware released on 7th Aug.
I wonder if prices will skyrocket like Lumines and some of the other PSP games found with exploits.
What version firmware is it supposed to work on?
Like the hat?
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Might buy a 2ds for this.
Damn, didn't even think of this. But is the 3DS even powerful enough to emulate it? VB uses a 32 bit processor running at 20 MHz. It's a lot more powerful than the SNES, which some people seem to think the 3DS can't emulate fully.
Either way, there's a damn good VB emulator for the Wii, which you can play in 3D using cheap 3D glasses, if you have a pair.