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Titanfall retail screencaps (XB1) show 792p resolution? CBoaT ;_;

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Vanillalite

Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Some games look better in motion than when captured in stills. This is one of them.

But to be sure, when comparing the visuals of this to something like Killzone SF, this game looks shockingly last-gen. I was taken aback when the Beta ended and I booted up some KZ. Maybe the next TF will be a next-gen exclusive made with tools and techniques that better capture what our expectations of next-gen visuals are. This is far from that target, imo.

We have stills from the Beta. They look better.

Guess its just the image service used, but FFS.
 
Eek at the aliasing in the HUD elements. I thought people said the display planes were supposed to allow HUD elements to be 1080p while being able to sacrifice graphics elsewhere for performance sake. You would think they'd take advantage of that for Xbone's flagship game.
 
Dear CBoat,

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ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
The majority of the people who buy this game wont be counting the pixels, they wont even care!

Let's not say that too loudly. People might start to think and keep their 360s instead of upgrading the console for $500. Why should they, if they won't even care about such things.
 

Mikey Jr.

Member
I don't want to bad mouth the game, because I'm sure its fun for people and Xbone guys deserve some fun.

But that game is fucking butt ugly. I would never show it off to someone to show them the graphical leap of a next gen console.
 
The problem with "insider informations" is that things can change.
I wouldn't be surprised if the 720p was true at some point but Microsoft delievered a new firmware with more ram avaiable or something.

Just take such informations with a grain of salt - not that 792p is stunning for a flagship title either.
 

Vashetti

Banned
Joke if they ban cboat and let Panello stay.

Yup, Penello only posted here to obfuscate information about Xbox One. It was a co-ordinated effort between himself and Major Nelson, Penello would post something on here and Nelson would post something almost identical on XB1's Reddit.

I'm not one to question the mods but Penello deserves to be shamed for the blatant lies he told about the XB1, repeatedly. Which the majority we now know to be false. He was purely here to put doubts in people's heads about the power differences between XB1 and PS4.

You only need to look at Penello's post history to see that his posts dropped off significantly after the XB1 launch on Nov 22nd. If cboat is banned, then Penello should be banned too for blatantly lying to us again and again.

At least cboat has given us genuine information in the past, information we would never have got if he wasn't prepared to risk his career for it.
 

chubigans

y'all should be ashamed
Eek at the aliasing in the HUD elements. I thought people said the display planes were supposed to allow HUD elements to be 1080p while being able to sacrifice graphics elsewhere for performance sake. You would think they'd take advantage of that for Xbone's flagship game.

I think the HUD is rendered inside the cockpit (as in it jostles around with you) as opposed to the static HUD, which is why they wouldn't be able to render on a separate pane.
 

Timu

Member
Honestly it looks like a clear visual DOWNGRADE from the beta, and I'm just not gonna pass all that off to the image service used either.

Beta screens looked alot better than this on the XB1.
Here are the beta screens I took:
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This game does not look impressive in the least. 792p? Why not just stick to 720 for a more stable rate? Can't believe that the Xbox One can't run this game well. Doesn't look to be pushing anything.


I'm of the belief that CBOAT'S account was compromised or he wants to be banned for life. No way that anyone with senses doubles down on alpha textures after it visibly wasn't the case.
 
Let's not say that too loudly. People might start to think and keep their 360s instead of upgrading the console for $500. Why should they, if they won't even care about such things.

I dont think most people even know its coming out on the 360, since its only been advertised so for the bone/pc
 

Freki

Member
If Albert posts something as bold as CBOAT then he should be banned too but he hasn't.

Oh really? He hasn't?
So I explain that we have people on the team who are very experienced optimizing tools and development for graphics (DirectX, etc.) because we are a SW company, and that we have balance in the system in other places that equalize the playing field.

Then it's said that was all hokum, you're just spinning, we want math and more detail to prove what you're saying.

So at THIS point - I go talk to someone. "Hey, you helped design our system. You're a sr. technical leader at Microsoft. You're sitting with 3rd party developers right now who are working on both systems. Can you give me some points to help explain why nobody is seeing this rumored 50% delta"

Then I publish the points, so now I have GAF telling me a developer working on our system is wrong, and that I should just let the games speak for themselves.

Which is where I started. And since my attempts to provide more direct lines of information aren't considered truthful, because I'm not the source.. then I agree we are back where we started.

I will ask two questions of the detractors, honest questions.

1. What piece of information would you want that I could provide that would convince you there is not a huge delta in performance?
2. If it comes out after we launch that the difference between 3rd party games is maybe single-digit FPS between the two platforms, will I get an apology or concession?
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Performance: I’m not dismissing raw performance. I’m stating – as I have stated from the beginning – that the performance delta between the two platforms is not as great as the raw numbers lead the average consumer to believe. There are things about our system architecture not fully understood, and there are things about theirs as well, that bring the two systems into balance.

People DO understand that Microsoft has some of the smartest graphics programmers IN THE WORLD. We CREATED DirectX, the standard API’s that everyone programs against. So while people laude Sony for their HW skills, do you really think we don’t know how to build a system optimized for maximizing graphics for programmers? Seriously? There is no way we’re giving up a 30%+ advantage to Sony. And ANYONE who has seen both systems running could say there are great looking games on both systems. If there was really huge performance difference – it would be obvious.

I get a ton of hate for saying this – but it’s been the same EVERY generation. Sony claims more power, they did it with Cell, they did it with Emotion Engine, and they are doing it again. And, in the end, games on our system looked the same or better.

I’m not saying they haven’t built a good system – I’m merely saying that anyone who wants to die on their sword over this 30%+ power advantage are going to be fighting an uphill battle over the next 10 years…
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rjinaz

Member
Like Albert amirite?

I really don't see Albert coming back, and as far as I know he hasn't since launch. I guess that's not the point though. I'm convinced this was a deliberate action by CBOAT wanting to get banned. Ah well. I did enjoy the excitement he brought when he would appear last year, those threads were always good reads. Maybe he is the hero that GAF no longer needs. If he goes, godspeed buddy.

I actually think Titanfall looks great in those images, regardless of resolution.
 
Define getting better , we have titanfall at 792p and metal gear at 720p this month for xb1 right ?

Thief was higher than was expected. Isn't wolfenstein also better than expected? In terms of mgs i think it depends on the devs. Like i said though i would wait and see how things look this fall for a better picture.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Didn't CBoaT say that the final game would be 720p AFTER the beta started? Meaning that the game was getting downgraded?

I think that's the problem and/or why he's banned or whatever.

The rumor about the retail version being 720p and having its own party chat solution made sense at the time. The game had some framerate issues that might force Respawn to dial down the resolution. The dedicated party chat solution was probably in development before the March update was certain to be released with the game, just to have a fallback solution. So I can see why CBoaT would have been certain about these.

But doubling down on the alpha textures thing after the Beta was just weird.
 

BigTnaples

Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
PC version looked pretty good when I played the beta....


Have you played any other games on your PC?


I have the PC version preloaded because cranking out extremely clean IQ is the only thing that makes this game look decent.


Crysis was 7 years ago, and it destroys Titanfall graphically. As do countless other games. It does not look "Pretty Good".

Fortunately, the gameplay is the tits.
 

Shin-Ra

Junior Member
There's no way that's direct feed. Even the HUD looks like shit.
The HUD is an actual reactive heads up display that bobbles around as you run so it's not a straightforward 1080p overlay + 792p composite job.

That said, CoD Ghost's HUD is static and still only rendered at 720p with the rest of the game.

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Thief was higher than was expected. Isn't wolfenstein also better than expected? In terms of mgs i think it depends on the devs. Like i said though i would wait and see how things look this fall for a better picture.
Nah. Albert was saying things like what if the console with the weaker on paper specs turned out to be stronger. Pure drunk posting type of things. He went too far in, can't redeem himself now. Shame because he started off likeable.
 
I find this mob and pitchfork shit kind of weird. The guy made two posts totaling about 20 words on the subject. One of these was made before the Beta started, the other was not. I get spanking the guy for causing a stir, but frankly, that is on you, me and every other person that went wild and made 50 threads on the possibilities of such a thing, not him. I see people saying how adamant he was, yet it was two posts, short posts at that.

The amount of people asking for his blood is quite disturbing. I wonder what anyone has to gain from such a thing.

Where are these posts excited about him likely being banned? I just don't see it yet people are repeatedly saying this like it's wanted for an insider to be banned. It's not the users faults that an insider's information is taken as credible and becomes news. He knows exactly what the response is and he's been off lately, incredibly so about this game.

I see people wanting him to be spared mostly just because he's GAF's own and there aren't a lot of leakers. Well if his information can't even be trusted, possibly due to him being found out or who knows why, how useful is he really? And making exceptions, especially with it being said that even him being right about the resolution would be enough, is a terrible idea. Him leaking stuff like this can cause real damage to companies and it's hard to even understand his leak about alpha textures, it made no sense and that's especially bad when it's negative.

I'm sure I'll get hate for this but some people just don't want to face the situation, his account is tainted and far less credible than it used to be. He's had some valid leaks in the last year but it's up to him to post the ones he has faith in and he failed to do so adequately. There must be accountability no matter how difficult such a thing is.

OT: If the game was downgraded I hope it was to make the FPS more stable around 60.

edit: Wanted to clarify that I am not in any way attempting to backseat mod. It's clear there's a discussion about cboat and I was giving my take and interpretation on why he may be banned since many don't want him to be. I'm not pushing the mods to do anything or advocating for a ban, the mods make the call and clearly the users like myself don't. The discussion is taking place though so I'm explaining a side that hasn't been explained much.
 

Warewolf

Member
Alpha textures or not. 792p may as well be 720p for all the difference it will make. PC girls and boys. Looked pretty alright at 1920x1080.

CBoaT can't be right all the time. It's not safe.
 

Woo-Fu

Banned
CBOAT has never been perfect. His are leaks. Not constantly confirmed. He's still relatively reliable. I prefer his leaks rather than no leaks from him.

But yes. He messes up a decent bit >.<
Dont rely so heavily on everything he says?

Not only that but things can change between the leak and the release.
 
Nah. Albert was saying things like what if the console with the weaker on paper specs turned out to be stronger. Pure drunk posting type of things. He went too far in, can't redeem himself now. Shame because he started off likeable.

Got a link? I don't remember him saying that,i remember something along the lines of MS not allowing a 30% advantage to Sony.
 
Here are the beta screens I took:
http://i2.minus.com/isOckkKFGi3L0.png[IMG]
[IMG]http://i2.minus.com/iXWfRQVTtGw7u.png[IMG]
[IMG]http://i3.minus.com/igvevePrZlWYJ.png[IMG][/QUOTE]

Is it just me, or do those look better than the ones in the OP? I'd love to hear an expert's opinion on all three textures "Alpha", "Beta" and "retail". What makes a texture good or bad, and can they really be compared without identical camera placement spaning all three iterations?
 

Duxxy3

Member
The HUD is an actual reactive heads up display that bobbles around as you run so it's not a straightforward 1080p overlay + 792p composite job.

That said, CoD Ghost's HUD is static and still only rendered at 720p with the rest of the game.

13016107494_9985ff0d7a_o.jpg

Still boggles my mind that the XB1 version is 720p.
 

rjinaz

Member
Shame because he started off likeable.

Actually yeah he did. I enjoyed reading Albert's posts and liked that Microsoft was talking to us. But he just couldn't accept that the PS4 would end up out performing the Xbox One. He kept arguing about it and then his responses would become somewhat extreme. I'd like to believe it is because he honestly didn't know any better or was being fed the wrong information.

Anyway, I guess this thread isn't really about him.
 
I don't see the point in banning him over one incorrect leak. Especially when he's had so many correct ones. You always have to take this sort of thing with a grain of salt. Sometimes he's right, sometimes he's wrong. This time he was wrong.

I tend to agree with you, but bish has responded to me saying this exact thing before and says he wants to hold people accountable for the information. Which is also understandable.

That said, I wish there was some way for him to stay. He has been awesome with some things in the past.
 

DREYDUS

Banned
So 792 instead of 720 and people are on this guy for that small of a difference. You should be outraged that this arcade game on a old engine is only 792p on a $500.00 system.

No campaign, no co-op, no destruction, 6 vs 6, charge full price, runs at 792p lol

If anything you should be praising this guy for not drinking the kool-aid these companies try to push out.
 

ypo

Member
Yikes.what a horrendous looking games. Since resolution doesn't matter they should've dropped it to 720p or even lower to get a stable framerate.
 
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