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Titanfall retail screencaps (XB1) show 792p resolution? CBoaT ;_;

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Proven

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CBOAT just shot himself in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about leaker culture (I'm an expert), but truthfacts and accountability are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in games journalism where you can become successful by lying to your audience. If you mislead someone as a leaker, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is that GAF, after hearing about this, is not going to trust CBOAt's posts again, nor will they give him credit for earlier, correct, leaks. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but CBOAT has alienated an entire forum with this move.

CBOAT, publicly apologize and stop posting anything negative or disparaging about Xbox One or any of its Games or you can kiss your account goodbye.

The right amount of detail... I popped into this thread at the right time.
 

H4r4kiri

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I really thing at the point Cboat said is gonna be 720 p it really was gonna be 720p.
The just wanted to not confirm it and so went up with weird 72p. Maybe because of the new drivers or something. I just think Cboat was right when he said it, but not now anymore
 

VaizardNL

Banned
Are those really direct screenshots? Even the HUD looks like poo on these images, which either tells me that they are heavily compressed or Respawn is not using the seperate layer for the HUD? I love the theories people come up with to defend CBOAT. He was wrong; simple as that. Get over it people.. it wasn't the first time and it won't be the last (unless he's gone forever)
 

Demon Ice

Banned
At this point I'm very confident that the only reason the XB1 version of the game runs at that strange 792p resolution is because they got the 360 version running at 720p native and they couldn't have the XB1 be stuck at that same resolution.
 
Really wish they had been able to hit 1080p @ 60fps on this title. Especially considering the graphical fidelity.


Really the only reason I am not picking this up for my Xbox One.



Holding out hope that a PS4 sequel in the future, (and hopefully the XBO version as well) run @1080p 60fps and enhanced fidelity.

For now, I am preloaded and ready to go on PC.


The game could look better. You can blame the Source Engine, even when modified, there's only so much you can do. Source is very CPU bound and the reason choses was to accommodate a PS3 port before the acquisition. I guess if they update the engine you can hope for a completely different look, otherwise a CPU bound engine won't do well on the PS4 either.

That being said, the game doesn't look like a Wii U game for pete's sake, there are times when it looks pretty good.

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ijNuKFkrWq33s.png
 

Rolf NB

Member
As for the actual news, I still think 792p is a weird resolution. I wonder if a dyed in the wool pixel counter could even tell the difference between that and 720p.
I just played a bit with the numbers and have this:
1)1920 / 1408 = 1080 / 792 = 15 / 11 = exact integral scaling is possible
2)
Code:
>>> 32. * (2**20) / (1408*792)
30.089990817263544
That's a pretty clean fit into the 32MB ESRAM for a pretty weird 30 bytes per pixel. Extremely weird if you take the 2xAA into account. Using 15 bytes per sample my not even be technically possible.
A realistic usage would be 24 bytes per pixel (12 per sample) in the backbuffer, with the then remaining ~6.45MB used for shadow maps and other misc stuff.
Code:
>>> (32. * (2**20) - (24 * 1408 * 792)) / (2**20)
6.4765625

It might also potentially leave the frontbuffer in the ESRAM, though I find this setup unlikely. That would consume an extra 4.25MB, leaving only 2.2MB for other things.
 

xxracerxx

Don't worry, I'll vouch for them.
Are those really direct screenshots? Even the HUD looks like poo on these images, which either tells me that they are heavily compressed or Respawn is not using the seperate layer for the HUD?

Been covered in the thread. The HUD shakes so no separate layer.
 

Hoo-doo

Banned
Weird, I could have sworn it was more.

Thanks for the info chief!

Here in the netherlands, some gaming stores are buying up german stock of XB1's to sell.

Too bad no-one seems to be interested in buying them here either. PS4's still sold out until late april.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
CBOAT just shot himself in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about leaker culture (I'm an expert), but truthfacts and accountability are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in games journalism where you can become successful by lying to your audience. If you mislead someone as a leaker, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is that GAF, after hearing about this, is not going to trust CBOAt's posts again, nor will they give him credit for earlier, correct, leaks. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but CBOAT has alienated an entire forum with this move.

CBOAT, publicly apologize and stop posting anything negative or disparaging about Xbox One or any of its Games or you can kiss your account goodbye.

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chadskin

Member
CBOAT just shot himself in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about leaker culture (I'm an expert), but truthfacts and accountability are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in games journalism where you can become successful by lying to your audience. If you mislead someone as a leaker, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is that GAF, after hearing about this, is not going to trust CBOAt's posts again, nor will they give him credit for earlier, correct, leaks. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but CBOAT has alienated an entire forum with this move.

CBOAT, publicly apologize and stop posting anything negative or disparaging about Xbox One or any of its Games or you can kiss your account goodbye.

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jaypah

Member
I really thing at the point Cboat said is gonna be 720 p it really was gonna be 720p.
The just wanted to not confirm it and so went up with weird 72p. Maybe because of the new drivers or something. I just think Cboat was right when he said it, but not now anymore

Weren't people playing the beta at 792p? And with better textures than the alpha? He doubled down on already available info. That's why it was so bizarre. Ah well, he'll be unbanned before he probably intended to post again so all's well.

Plus it's fUN!

You dig it?
 

Darknight

Member
Cant wait to try the PC version. I hope Origin has good deals on it soon.

Anyhow I honestly believe that Respawn went with 792P resolution to avoid the "720P lol" shitstorm. So they dodged a bullet?

If those are native screen shots....wow. No exclusive should look like that, specially on a system from 2013-2014.
 
The game could look better. You can blame the Source Engine, even when modified, there's only so much you can do. Source is very CPU bound and the reason choses was to accommodate a PS3 port before the acquisition. I guess if they update the engine you can hope for a completely different look, otherwise a CPU bound engine won't do well on the PS4 either.

That being said, the game doesn't look like a Wii U game for pete's sake, there are times when it looks pretty good.

ihKQ3AVnj0giS.png


ijNuKFkrWq33s.png

Looks like WiiU to me.
 

VaizardNL

Banned
What prevents using movement data while rendering a HUD to a separate layer?

Wondering the same thing :)

No idea, but this is the speculation.

Ah ok; thanks for your initial reply also ^^

Here in the netherlands, some gaming stores are buying up german stock of XB1's to sell.

Too bad no-one seems to be interested in buying them here either. PS4's still sold out until late april.

I'm interested in buying, but only when they officially support and release the device here. I'm quite sure this is why a lot of people don't take the dive yet + the lack of commercials etc for the regular folk. I'm also still curious as to what the 'promised' compensation will be.

A friend of mine ordered a PS4 on release in the Netherlands. Got one at home, but it wasn't working. Now 2+ months later he still hasn't gotten one in return, since replenishing stocks takes ages and are really low on numbers.
 
I wouldn't be terribly surprised to see a Wii U game looking like that to be honest.


Not if it's running the Source Engine which is CPU heavy, that's actually why it could be better on X1. Both X1 and PS4 excel in their GPUs, not so much on CPU power.

How does Wii U compare to X1 and PS4 CPU wise? I don't know much at all about the Wii U.
 

Sendou

Member
How does Wii U compare to X1 and PS4 CPU wise? I don't know much at all about the Wii U.

Wii U smokes them. There was a rumor that the real reason Sony are having financial troubles is because they had to put so much resources on figuring out what kind of space age technology resides inside a Wii U's CPU.

Needless to say they still haven't figured it out.
 

StuBurns

Banned
Not if it's running the Source Engine which is CPU heavy
Is it? Because even the most shitty ass laptops run source games fine.

As for TF, it is an awful looking game, the most appallingly flat lighting, but it is the studio's first title, I'm sure they'll step it up a lot for TF2.
 

Sublyminal

Neo Member
Is it? Because even the most shitty ass laptops run source games fine.

As for TF, it is an awful looking game, the most appallingly flat lighting, but it is the studio's title, I'm sure they'll step it up a lot for TF2.

I dunno this is former IW. They didn't really update their last MW game, before the whole Activision spat happened.
 

Ghazi

Member
So BF4 runs better and has a higher resolution than this game, on the Xbox One? And can have a lot more going on at a time? What a joke, they should've gone with Frostbite, though I know they did Source for the PS3.
 

JaggedSac

Member
So BF4 runs better and has a higher resolution than this game, on the Xbox One? And can have a lot more going on at a time? What a joke, they should've gone with Frostbite, though I know they did Source for the PS3.

I thought BF ran at 720p.
 

Portugeezer

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So BF4 runs better and has a higher resolution than this game, on the Xbox One? And can have a lot more going on at a time? What a joke, they should've gone with Frostbite, though I know they did Source for the PS3.

BF4 is 720p on the Xbox One.
 

Synth

Member
Not if it's running the Source Engine which is CPU heavy, that's actually why it could be better on X1. Both X1 and PS4 excel in their GPUs, not so much on CPU power.

How does Wii U compare to X1 and PS4 CPU wise? I don't know much at all about the Wii U.

I have no idea either. I get that the Source engine is probably a large factor in how it looks (I'm not claiming the Wii U and X1 are of comparable power), just that I could definitely picture a Wii U putting out a similar level of graphics in an FPS. It doesn't really matter what engine it would require in order to do so.
 
The game could look better. You can blame the Source Engine, even when modified, there's only so much you can do. Source is very CPU bound and the reason choses was to accommodate a PS3 port before the acquisition. I guess if they update the engine you can hope for a completely different look, otherwise a CPU bound engine won't do well on the PS4 either.

That being said, the game doesn't look like a Wii U game for pete's sake, there are times when it looks pretty good.

ihKQ3AVnj0giS.png


ijNuKFkrWq33s.png

You're supposed to post good looking screenshots when you say something like that, not... that...
 

Dlacy13g

Member
So BF4 runs better and has a higher resolution than this game, on the Xbox One? And can have a lot more going on at a time? What a joke, they should've gone with Frostbite, though I know they did Source for the PS3.

I believe Frostbite is only used by EA internal studios. Respawn is not owned by EA, EA is just a publishing partner therefore they wouldn't have access to the Frostbite engine.

edit: and for further clarification BF4 on the Xbox one is 720p using the Frostbite engine.
 

Eoin

Member
So BF4 runs better and has a higher resolution than this game, on the Xbox One? And can have a lot more going on at a time? What a joke, they should've gone with Frostbite, though I know they did Source for the PS3.
BF4 is pretty fugly on the Xbox in multiplayer.
 

Ghazi

Member
BF4 is 720p on the Xbox One.

I thought BF ran at 720p.
My bad, then, for some reason I thought it was 900p on both PS4/XB1, I remember now.
I believe Frostbite is only used by EA internal studios. Respawn is not owned by EA, EA is just a publishing partner therefore they wouldn't have access to the Frostbite engine.

edit: and for further clarification BF4 on the Xbox one is 720p using the Frostbite engine.
Understandable, I guess. Frostbite though, is pushing so much more than this game it seems (64 player battles) and graphics at 720p. Hopefully we see TF on Frostbire one day.
 

Rolf NB

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Not if it's running the Source Engine which is CPU heavy, that's actually why it could be better on X1. Both X1 and PS4 excel in their GPUs, not so much on CPU power.

How does Wii U compare to X1 and PS4 CPU wise? I don't know much at all about the Wii U.
Siginificantly behind. On par with Xenon (Xbox 360 CPU) at its very best. Less than half of Xenon and utterly destroyed by Cell in SIMD tasks.

No chance of hanging with PS4/Xbone CPUs. They have better architecture throughout, more execution units, a lot more SIMD resources, higher base clock, and more than twice the cores. I would consider it a great victory if someone found a task where it's only 20~30% behind. Probably something very single-threaded and very contrived.

Also hamstrung by much lower system memory bandwidth.
 
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