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Diablo 3 getting Necromancer (paid), remaking Diablo 1 in D3, new zones (free)
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Rhomega Beta
Member
Oh, a Rift. I don't bother with those much.
Calcium
Banned
No, people are inferring that. That said... those two designs aren't exactly worlds apart. That's sort of how Diablo 1 worked.
Makoto Yuki
Banned
Diablo was pretty much a rift in the first place. If you really think about it.
I'm honestly more intrigued by the D1 thing, but I hope it's a bit more fleshed-out and well thought-out than a rift. Apparently even the gameplay will be more old school, with 4-directional movement like in the olden days.
I think that says a lot about how underwhelming the rest was.
I think that says a lot about how underwhelming the rest was.
Palette Swap
Member
I was like "hey stop complaining, at least that remake is free" but just a Rift? LOL
I think the main expectation is that people wanted something significantly new for Diablo to be announced. Blizzcon made a big deal this year of the Diablo anniversary, and they've been ramping up recruitment for a new Diablo project. When the Necromancer leaked, people started expecting that maybe it was an expansion instead of Diablo 4, because that would make sense. Diablo always traditionally added classes with expansions, not as individual DLC.
While what they announced is no doubt nice to have for Diablo 3 players, none of it represents a new product or something that Diablo fans who are done with Diablo 3 can feel excited about.
Yes, it will be on the PTR next week.
KiefbladeMaster
Member
Necro being paid content is kinda meh, looks like they're just transferring his moveset over. There is going to be overlap with the WD so I dunno why they aren't doing some reworks.
The remake with the filter may be nice but we'll have to wait and see some footage. If you're gonna keep it in the D3 engine why go back to 8-Axis movement? Understandable if it was a standalone remake, but it's not and it sounds like you can use every class.
The remake with the filter may be nice but we'll have to wait and see some footage. If you're gonna keep it in the D3 engine why go back to 8-Axis movement? Understandable if it was a standalone remake, but it's not and it sounds like you can use every class.
It's not a remake. It's just a filter with different controls.
MrToughPants
Brian Burke punched my mom
What is a RIFT?
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
Excited for the diablo 1 stuff. Never played that one.
mysteriousmage09
Member
It's a fucking rift!?
Jesus Christ Blizzard.
Jesus Christ Blizzard.
Atom Heart Mother
Banned
Really, a new class? That's it? Just make a new expansion or game, Blizzard. Come on.
How much free content do you think you're entitled to? Not being snarky, honestly wondering. The games had solid support for quite some time, with new areas, mode, items, seasons, etc. Should they just support the game ad infinitum? A new class is a fairly sizeable chunk of content for an ARPG, along with the two new areas (with new mobs if they follow the other areas) and the D1 anniversary stuff. The only thing we're not getting that a "proper" expansion would have had is new story content, considering a) the story in D3 is mostly dogshit and b) most people play through it once, I'm not sure how much of a loss that is.
To each their own, but considering that the character feels like the meat of the ARPG experience (with the other main pillar being loot) I'm wondering what exactly you mean by "substantial content"? New areas (we're getting those)? New story?
ClubCyberia
Member
The lack of an actual expansion indicates to me that they are ready to move onto Diablo 4 and this is just what they were able to pull together to celebrate the 20th anniversary. I wasn't a huge fan of D3 so if Blizzard is dialed in on D4 that's good news to me.
johancruijff
Banned
Calcium
Banned
Randomized dungeon.
After playing this you still wouldn't have played the original. It's not a remake.
Hero_of_the_Day
Member
So, what is it exactly?
Askherserenity
Member
It's just a random dungeon. So this is just a D1 themed dungeon. Not a complete remake of D1 done in the D3 engine.
Yes, there were. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UL0haiSjGdU
I hoped for it, but didn't really think it would get announced. Necromancer will be cool, but it should get introduced with a proper expansion, like the crusader. Slightly disappointed...
The game doesn't even remotely look like a "cartoon". Really, are people that hung over with Diablo III's saturated colour pallet? The soundtrack and narrative, I understand. (The composer is a poor replacement to Matt Uelmen, and I didn't give a shit about the Nephelem or Cain's niece.) But the actual game itself looks solid. Azmodan looks frickin' awesome, and the promotional artwork for the Necromancer looks great, to boot.
It was described as a 16 floor dungeon. Which is exactly what Diablo was. It was a town and a 16 floor dungeon.
Subpar Spatula
Banned
Just buy Diablo 1. The D1 remake won't have the random quests and what not. Diablo 1 also plays much differently due to the spell system. Itemization is, sadly, even better than Diablo 3.
Plus you can actually take your time with Diablo 1 instead of blowing through it like you're God with an axe.
Not Spaceghost
Spaceghost
A randomized dungeon with a customizable difficulty that you have to clear in under 15 minutes but usually end up clearing in about 5.
it's the only real content in the game.
They should have just saved it for D4.
Calcium
Banned
It's a dungeon in Diablo 3 themed like the Cathedral in the original game. It has 16 floors and 4 bosses. It has optional graphics and control tweaks to make it feel more like the original. It's not a remake of the original game.
You really think people are complaining that there isn't enough free content here? People are upset that there isn't substantial new paid content they can pay money for and feel good about. Instead of Diablo 1 as a Rift, people want to be able to buy a Diablo 2 remake. Instead of Necromancer DLC for a few bucks, people want to buy a new Diablo 3 expansion for 40 bucks.
I don't think anyone here is whining that there isn't enough free stuff.
Weird how they're adding Necro. Not as an expansion, but as a patch.. and paid? Unheard of.
My guess is they started work on an expansion, had internal issues, and are trying to do whatever they can to salvage the work that they did. Times aren't good at Blizz, did WoW ruin them forever?
My guess is they started work on an expansion, had internal issues, and are trying to do whatever they can to salvage the work that they did. Times aren't good at Blizz, did WoW ruin them forever?
Gaylord Sweetwood
Member
Diablo 1 "remade" with D3 itemization .feelsbadman
I will be passing on this.
Maybe they have more to announce, but if not, then this was a very disappointing splash for Diablo's 20th.
I will be passing on this.
Maybe they have more to announce, but if not, then this was a very disappointing splash for Diablo's 20th.
uncredited male
Member
Based on D3's pacing the D1 content can probably be done in under in under an hour for mature builds.
I am not knocking either game's pacing here just that they were polar opposites.
I am not knocking either game's pacing here just that they were polar opposites.
Askherserenity
Member
I can't tell if you're being sarcastic but...
beloved character deckard cain literally dies by the hands of a purple moth.
robotzombie
Member
The real tragedy is how this news cements just how much longer we are going to have to wait for a new druid
