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Titanfall retail screencaps (XB1) show 792p resolution? CBoaT ;_;

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Jetlagger

Banned
I still don't see how CBoaT was wrong in implying that Titanfall wouldn't be a technical showcase for the Xbox One, much less for next gen.

So he was off by 72p, and maybe lacked confidence in the engine to push higher quality textures by time of release, but at least he kept those issues at the forefront of the discussion, whereas other outlets would have been all too happy to sweep them under the rug as if informing the gamer is no longer the main purpose.

Just because the game isn't 720p, it doesn't make 792p something to celebrate. If all CBoaT had said was that the resolution would be below 900p, he would still have been correct and still would have caused an uproar. If CBoaT didn't say anything about the textures at all, he'd have been unscathed, but at least he made sure we'd be paying attention to it. CBoaT's only mistake was he got too specific.

Honestly, it's like a witch hunt for somebody, who's a boon to the community by sharing those details that may otherwise never leak out, that we would sorely miss.
 
Not all rumors will be true. Not all information gotten from other sources will always be entirely accurate. I always thought his posts were made with the disclaimer that what was said was highly possible but not necessarily the intractable truth. Failing to take that into consideration is not his fault.
 

FacelessSamurai

..but cry so much I wish I had some
Considering how often he was right, I think he should get a "get out of jail free" pass this time around. I know he was very convinced about the resolution in his previous comments, but everyone can make mistakes. Considering the amount of early info we got thanks to him, maybe we should cut him some slack.
 
Good job cboat.

Way to get under the radar. You knew they were after you so you did the only sensible thing and provide random info that you weren't told to escape.

If they found you and got access to your account. I hope you land on your feet; however, I believe you are still around with a new identity.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Considering how often he was right, I think he should get a "get out of jail free" pass this time around. I know he was very convinced about the resolution in his previous comments, but everyone can make mistakes. Considering the amount of early info we got thanks to him, maybe we should cut him some slack.

I'd call a three-day ban an "almost-get-out-of-jail-free pass".
 

maltrain

Junior Member
Anyway, what is the obsession with bans on this board?

He was wrong once... so what?

IT'S ONLY A BOARD, NOT A NEWSPAPER!!!

Jeez...
 

VanWinkle

Member
I still cannot understand why in the world CBOAT stuck to his guns on the Titanfall thing even after the beta. I honestly, truly, does not make sense to me. It doesn't seem right.
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
Use short phrases.

Write without articles.

Write in a different way as you usually do.

Etc... etc... etc...

His code messages are stupid IMO.

Be that as it may, CBOAT's posts, presumably typed out using his forehead (I'm joking), achieve the desired result (continued anonymity), are relatively easy to decipher for those familiar with his style, and are deciphered by those familiar with his style expressly for those who are unfamiliar with his style. There's no sense in him changing things up just because "it's stupid"; in fact, doing so would itself be stupid.
 

Kiant

Member
Game looks fine for a fast paced multiplayer shooter that can have 30+ characters on the screen at once.

Had no trouble picking off players at a distance or seeing what was going on in the beta. I like the look of the game, especially the surrounding environments/scenery.

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A lot of those stills look like ass but that one looks really nice, I just think it's one of those games where they shouldn't release stills, but hey least they're not bullshotting stills like Ubisoft.
 
Anyway, what is the obsession with bans on this board?

He was wrong once... so what?

IT'S ONLY A BOARD, NOT A NEWSPAPER!!!

Jeez...

It's a board where people come for news, not conjecture. People say something significant on gaf and it'll be on many videogame news sites within hours.

GAF got to be one of the most visited websites on the internet because it is a place you can really trust most of the publicly readable information, rather than letting people spout whatever they made up as the truth.
 

Sendou

Member
I still cannot understand why in the world CBOAT stuck to his guns on the Titanfall thing even after the beta. I honestly, truly, does not make sense to me. It doesn't seem right.

thuway offered interesting insight on Twitter:

It wasn't just CBoaT that heard about the 720p TitanFall news. There are two theories behind what happened with the final product-

1. Multiple insiders (I, Bruce, CBoaT, etc.) were lead to believe from a "reliable" person that TF was going for solid 60fps at all costs.

- Cont. We heard about developer struggles to mantain a constant 60 FPS so naturally the 720p rumor (which dated back to E3) was in check.

After Beta came out, it was pretty obvious textures improved, but performance was still murky. Again, was told performance at all costs.

Hence, what I "personally" believe, is why CBoaT was so adamant about 720p alpha textures.

2. The other story I heard was bad information was being leaked to smoke out moles who leaked out the resolution at E3. And the great hunt.

In any case I find this whole insider fuss good for nothing. I understand why people are into this but still.
 

jayu26

Member
Taking an otherwise exemplary track record into account...

720p = 72 hr ban seems fair.

I'm a big fan of CBOAT's past work (leaks). Despite that I think his/her punishment should be severe. S/he should be banned for at least one month.
Anyway, what is the obsession with bans on this board?

He was wrong once... so what?

IT'S ONLY A BOARD, NOT A NEWSPAPER!!!

Jeez...

It helps to keep the integrity. That way no one gets to dispute or obfuscate the facts.
 

Jetlagger

Banned
You do realize he'll be back in three days, right?

I do (I did read the OP). However, it's not the severity of the ban, but the ban itself, that I'm not sure justifies risking the alienation of the only solid leak who doesn't show up for one day and then disappears forever.

Whether you make the ban one day or two or three, it's still pushing him away, reprimanding him publicly for something that in the end isn't even that reprehensible. 792p isn't some astronomically significant upgrade over 720p, and these textures aren't exactly blowing anyone's mind with unforeseen amounts of detail, even for a multiplayer game.

Yes, this is worse than when he was wrong about Prince of Persia, but at least he never said the game is going to be coming to PS4 or something that would really have riled up the forums.
 

jaypah

Member
Anyway, what is the obsession with bans on this board?

He was wrong once... so what?

IT'S ONLY A BOARD, NOT A NEWSPAPER!!!

Jeez...

Well...at least some of it has to be fanaticism. Dude literally said for Xbox fanatics to clean his ass out with their tears, lol. Along with leaking mostly negative stuff about MS lately and seemingly reveling in it. On the other hand it's not shocking some of the posters that hold him up as their hero for the exact same reason.

Everyone else in the middle just hopes that he continues to deliver and has more hits than misses.
 

mrJared

Banned
I for one, never thought the resolution would get an upgrade at all.

We've all seen this kind of tactic done before by community managers and the like. The ol' "Dismiss and Move On".

They successfully moved the discussion away from the resolution, which we have all seen bury hype of the actual game, by using uncertain language like "probably" and "likely".

"final resolution will probably be a little higher than 792p"

they promise things will be fixed only to move the discussion away from the issue and back on game hype. Its a pathetic maneuver when you actually notice it happening.

hopefully the way this played out will teach some of you to recognize it next time as the BS that it is.
 

jayu26

Member
I do (I did read the OP). However, it's not the severity of the ban, but the ban itself, that I'm not sure justifies risking the alienation of the only solid leak who doesn't show up for one day and then disappears forever.

Whether you make the ban one day or two or three, it's still pushing him away, reprimanding him publicly for something that in the end isn't even that reprehensible. 792p isn't some astronomically significant upgrade over 720p, and these textures aren't exactly blowing anyone's mind with unforeseen amounts of detail, even for a multiplayer game.

Yes, this is worse than when he was wrong about Prince of Persia, but at least he never said the game is going to be coming to PS4 or something that would really have riled up the forums.

We should not be bending rules for anyone. That sets a bad precedence. If this means we never hear from CBOAT again, then that's fine. I would rather have leakers I can trust.
 

VanWinkle

Member
He was not wrong just once. His track record since E3 has being sketchy.

Ehh...I think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt with a lot of the stuff around E3 and a few months after, with that massive shake-up with going on with the XB1 around that time. I think he was probably on point with most of it.
 

paparazzo

Member
I can understand why he should be banned and to be honest, he probably deserves it. When someone is that adamant about something that's repeatedly been proven false, it seriously tarnishes their reputation. This wasn't him just dropping some info and waiting for it to be made official (i.e PS4 release date); he wouldn't let it go. Not to mention his constant teasing of "ass storm" which he promised to reveal soon after the Xbone launch as well as other vague things he couldn't prove and were probably never as big an issue as he said.

I was a believer before, but he's clearly lost his way or he has indeed been discovered by MS and they're using his account to destroy his credibility.
 
The guy messed up one time, and people want his blood now ...?

This here. Out of the million times he's been correct and now people want to act like he has to be right all the time. He was incorrect about something else last year and people pushed it aside. Now this is like OH MAI FACKING JEEZ TEH ENDZZ!!!!

Just get over it.

And it's not like this resolution is helping the game either lol.
 

ElTorro

I wanted to dominate the living room. Then I took an ESRAM in the knee.
Ehh...I think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt with a lot of the stuff around E3 and a few months after, with that massive shake-up with going on with the XB1 around that time. I think he was probably on point with most of it.

There were also the yield issues for which we have no evidence of being true. On the contrary, they upped the clock speeds. Then we have the wrong PS4 release date. After that he vaguely predicted an ass-storm that never came, unless he meant resolution gate. He was most probably exaggerating the XBL problems, though. And now we have this Titanfall debacle.

As I said, I still appreciate people like CBoaT. However, we should all be more skeptical now about such info.
 
A lot of those stills look like ass but that one looks really nice, I just think it's one of those games where they shouldn't release stills, but hey least they're not bullshotting stills like Ubisoft.

Well it looks like ass in motion too. What should they do, not show it at all?
 

Rafterman

Banned
I don't get it, isn't 792p close enough to 720p that it makes fuck all difference? People are acting like he said 720p and it ended up 1080p or something. The resolution is still shit, what's the issue again?
 

JaseC

gave away the keys to the kingdom.
I don't get it, isn't 792p close enough to 720p that it makes fuck all difference? People are acting like he said 720p and it ended up 1080p or something. The resolution is still shit, what's the issue again?

The broader issue is that he doubled-down on his info even when evidence to the contrary began mounting. As an "insider" he's responsible for ensuring the veracity of any absolute claims he makes.
 

Jetlagger

Banned
We should not be bending rules for anyone. That sets a bad precedence. If this means we never hear from CBOAT then that's fine. I would rather have leakers I can trust.

Well, if that's the case, so then ban him permanently? Set a precedent that you can never be wrong ever about anything?

ntkrnl promised a Titanfall-skinned Xbox One for the mass market and now that's not happening so do you still trust him? "B-b-but he's a controlled leaker." Well, ok, but then we'd still be bending the rules for someone.

I'm not for drawing hard lines like that. At this point, CBoaT should probably just be done with us anyway.
 

Kinyou

Member
This here. Out of the million times he's been correct and now people want to act like he has to be right all the time. He was incorrect about something else last year and people pushed it aside. Now this is like OH MAI FACKING JEEZ TEH ENDZZ!!!!

Just get over it.

And it's not like this resolution is helping the game either lol.
He's been wrong a bunch of times, this is a bit more special because he doubled down on it
 
I don't get it, isn't 792p close enough to 720p that it makes fuck all difference? People are acting like he said 720p and it ended up 1080p or something. The resolution is still shit, what's the issue again?

Gaf wanted him to be wrong. It's not like he was the CEO of the company or anything, he was just a regular joe working there there. Plans always changes.
 

Mr Moose

Member
I don't get it, isn't 792p close enough to 720p that it makes fuck all difference? People are acting like he said 720p and it ended up 1080p or something. The resolution is still shit, what's the issue again?

The textures.

Which also look like shit.

CBOAT just shot himself in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about leaker culture (I'm an expert), but truthfacts and accountability are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in games journalism where you can become successful by lying to your audience. If you mislead someone as a leaker, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is that GAF, after hearing about this, is not going to trust CBOAt's posts again, nor will they give him credit for earlier, correct, leaks. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but CBOAT has alienated an entire forum with this move.

CBOAT, publicly apologize and stop posting anything negative or disparaging about Xbox One or any of its Games or you can kiss your account goodbye.

LOL. Never gets old.
 
I don't get it, isn't 792p close enough to 720p that it makes fuck all difference? People are acting like he said 720p and it ended up 1080p or something. The resolution is still shit, what's the issue again?

It's not a serious issue. Thats why his ban is temporary, not permanent. However, the rules still apply to cboat like they do to everyone else.
 

mrklaw

MrArseFace
Why 792p? What kind of weird res is that? I hope at least they sorted the framerate.

Maybe they went a bit higher because the 360 port is coming in at 720p?
 
CBOAT just shot himself in the foot.

I don't know how much the rest of you know about leaker culture (I'm an expert), but truthfacts and accountability are huge parts of it. It's not like it is in games journalism where you can become successful by lying to your audience. If you mislead someone as a leaker, you bring shame to yourself, and the only way to get rid of that shame is repentance.

What this means is that GAF, after hearing about this, is not going to trust CBOAt's posts again, nor will they give him credit for earlier, correct, leaks. This is HUGE. You can laugh all you want, but CBOAT has alienated an entire forum with this move.

CBOAT, publicly apologize and stop posting anything negative or disparaging about Xbox One or any of its Games or you can kiss your account goodbye.
 
What if the resolution WAS 720p and the textures WERE alpha but Respawn wanted CBoaT dead so they changed it all at the last minute?
 

mrg6290

Member
There were also the yield issues for which we have no evidence of being true. On the contrary, they upped the clock speeds. Then we have the wrong PS4 release date. After that he vaguely predicted an ass-storm that never came, unless he meant resolution gate. He was most probably exaggerating the XBL problems, though. And now we have this Titanfall debacle.

As I said, I still appreciate people like CBoaT. However, we should all be more skeptical now about such info.

This. If we treated CBoaT's posts as rumblings coming from the inside instead of the divine words of a prophet then this would be no big deal. The issue is the weight people have put behind CBoaT.

I'm glad he is not permabanned, but I hope this issue makes everyone lend a more critical eye to leaks in the future.
 
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