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[stufte]

I read the first few pages and then skipped to the end.

I clearly missed a grand revelation somewhere.

TMZ dropped truth bombs in the form of recorded audio of the event. Turns out she may have stretched the truth a weeee bit.

 

[Stet]

lol putting your dad on the phone with the cops

 

[chicagocubsfan]

Haha oh wow. What an idiot.

 

[.GqueB.]

She stated in that CNN interview, that she knew she could've resolved the situation easily, but stayed hard headed on purpose to make a point for black people, because she saw herself in the position of being a hero by resisting.

She thinks that we would champion someone for staying hard-headed/difficult on purpose? Strange conclusion to draw.

 

[Son of Cervantes]

I read the first few pages and then skipped to the end.

I clearly missed a grand revelation somewhere.

TMZ audio was released, turns out the actress was lying on SEVERAL accounts: There were multiple complaints of her having sex with her boyfriend in their car, with the door open, in public view. The police responded to the complaints, but by that time, she and her bf had apparently 'finished' and wiped themselves off with tissue. The police officer asked her for some ID, she called her daddy and tried to put him on the phone with the officer (lol), accused the officer of racially profiling her, tried to walk away when he was detaining her, and basically acted like an entitled, obnoxious brat.

The officer, on the other hand, was extremely cool under pressure and handled things very well, though you could tell he was pretty annoyed. He put her in handcuffs because she tried to leave while he was still questioning her, but he did not arrest her (as some folks have stated).

TBH, looking at the wreckage the first few pages of this thread created, I can kind of see why people on GAF might hesitate to speak their honest opinions, even if they do it respectfully. I would have been on the side of Daniele Watts, fwiw, but wow...people got banned just for saying they wanted to wait until more information got released. Kind of shameful.

 

[blitzcloud]

jumping to conclusions is always bad. It's a powerful tool that opressed (or rather, that are part of a minority and/or oppressed group) people can use, unlike those with privilege. I only can hope this opens the eyes of those who see everything as black or white without giving the other side a chance (pun not intended). Without the audio record, many would still believe it happened because similar (and worse things happened).

You know what's the name of that? Prejudice. And racism is inherently founded on prejudice on most cases.

 

[Darklord]

Whoa, this certainly had a 180 turn of events. She sounded like Hilary from the Fresh Prince the way she was going off.

 

[wildfire]

Oh that woman is crazy, glad the cops were taping. #notallarrestedminorities

#notalldetainedminorities

 

[Nesotenso]

saying she is a celebrity is a stretch.

 

[.GqueB.]

TBH, looking at the wreckage the first few pages of this thread created, I can kind of see why people on GAF might hesitate to speak their honest opinions, even if they do it respectfully. I would have been on the side of Daniele Watts, fwiw, but wow...people got banned just for saying they wanted to wait until more information got released. Kind of shameful.

To be fair, some of those are unrelated. I know at least one is.

 

[Beerman462]

lol putting your dad on the phone with the cops

I didn't know she actually called her dad. From a quote I saw earlier "Daddy they don't want to talk to you" I assumed she was playing up the prostitute thing and calling her boyfriend daddy. Although after reading the thread more. Where did the whole prostitute angle come from?

 

[methane47]

This is why we need recording devices on every police officer.
Every situation can be judged so quickly and dealt with so easily.

 

[Son of Cervantes]

To be fair, some of those are unrelated. I know at least one is.

Oh, I didn't check what other posts the banned folks had written, so you are right, but the number of bans can't all be coincidental, right? :/ :\

I didn't know she actually called her dad. From a quote I saw earlier "Daddy they don't want to talk to you" I assumed she was playing up the prostitute thing and calling her boyfriend daddy. Although after reading the thread more. Where did the whole prostitute angle come from?

She and her boyfriend pulled it out of their asses.

 

[watershed]

Wow, what a turn of events. She's an idiot for trying to make herself into a martyr. But this is a victory for more police recording practices.

 

[TheBryanJZX90]

The officer, on the other hand, was extremely cool under pressure and handled things very well, though you could tell he was pretty annoyed. He put her in handcuffs because she tried to leave while he was still questioning her, but he did not arrest her (as some folks have stated.

Has lawyer GAF chimed in on the bolded bits yet? I might be wrong but I thought handcuffed + not free to leave = arrested. It's more than an investigative Terry stop at that point, right?

 

[Particle Physicist]

Has lawyer GAF chimed in on the bolded bits yet? I might be wrong but I thought handcuffed/not free to leave = arrested.

It could mean detained but not officially arrested. Not a lawyer though.

 

[Son of Cervantes]

Has lawyer GAF chimed in on the bolded bits yet? I might be wrong but I thought handcuffed/not free to leave = arrested.

She was detained, not arrested. Arrested would mean she was taken to the station, booked, etc. Detained means the police stopped her, questioned her, and then let her go.

 

[spwolf]

I didn't know she actually called her dad. From a quote I saw earlier "Daddy they don't want to talk to you" I assumed she was playing up the prostitute thing and calling her boyfriend daddy. Although after reading the thread more. Where did the whole prostitute angle come from?

everyone needs to hear this epic failure before commenting:
http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/django-actress-daniele-watts-lapd-race-card-fame-audio/

pretty crazy.

 

[Son of Cervantes]

everyone needs to hear this epic failure before commenting:
http://www.tmz.com/2014/09/15/django-actress-daniele-watts-lapd-race-card-fame-audio/

pretty crazy.

That link should be mandatory listening before anybody comments, should be at the top of every page, lol.

Watts was on CNN today, lying about why she was detained, claiming she was confused for a prostitute because she kissed her boyfriend. She's made up this story and is running with it.

 

[entremet]

Her career is certainly over.

 

[Red Comet]

Yup, that's why I stay out of these kinds of threads until we have more information.

 

[Storm Chamber]

Well, I took a lowercase L in here

 

[Volimar]

Her career is certainly over.

I doubt it.

 

[thesuperfunk]

snip.

Thanks for the update ... I was equally as confused when I saw the title change!

 

[DoktorEvil]

Her career is certainly over.

I doubt it.

Has she done anything before or after Django?

 

[stufte]

Yup, that's why I stay out of these kinds of threads until we have more information.

It's for the best.

 

[Mrs. Manky]

Well. I was wrong. I admit it. The cops were doing their job, it looks like. And Daniele Watts was acting crazy.

 

[Calamari41]

Hero?

She use that word to describe herself?

Remember, this was while she was still controlling the narrative. She didn't know the police were recording at this point.

 

[Corronchilejano]

The tape clears everything up. Man, what a humongous manipulative bitch.

 

[Son of Cervantes]

Remember, this was while she was still controlling the narrative. She didn't know the police were recording at this point.

I wish the interviewer on CNN had played some of that audio and asked her to respond.

I noticed that Jezebel, Gawker, and the other hack sites like HuffPo haven't bothered to update the story now that more facts have come out.

I feel sorry for those police officers. Hopefully the people around them know what really went down.

 

[biggersmaller]

If this conversation wasn't recorded and we only had the cop's word - how would you respond to someone who said they didn't believe her story?

 

[Velcro Fly]

I read the article on this on CNN at work today, expecting the worst. What I found was a cop who kept his cool and a person who did everything imaginable to escalate the situation. I'm really glad for cops that wear recording devices so shit like this gets sorted out how it should.

 

[ReturnOfTheRAT]

So, wait for the facts to come out.

 

[Son of Cervantes]

If this conversation wasn't recorded and we only had the cop's word - how would you respond to someone who said they didn't believe her story?

Let's be honest, they probably would have been permabanned.

And if there hadn't been a recording, I would probably not believe the police officers either. That's the state of the country we live in these days. It's genuinely heartbreaking.

 

[CrankyJay]

I read the article on this on CNN at work today, expecting the worst. What I found was a cop who kept his cool and a person who did everything imaginable to escalate the situation. I'm really glad for cops that wear recording devices so shit like this gets sorted out how it should.

It really is the best solution for everyone involved.

 

[Chariot]

Hero?

She use that word to describe herself?

What an idiot.

She thinks that we would champion someone for staying hard-headed/difficult on purpose? Strange conclusion to draw.

No, she didn't say 'hero', that was me interpreting her words, I apologize to not make that clear. I will write her exact words out so there will less further misinformation.

Timestamp: 9:30

CNN: "You gave your ID to Brian [her husband], he gave it to the police. You see if you had done that earlier... it, it might not have escalated this far?"

Mrs. Watts: "I certainly understand that, but I do again feel part of my role as a public figure is to raise awareness and be strong enough to say and do the things that people who don't have the advantages of that I have, aren't strong enough or don't have the know-how, don't have the awareness to do. So because I'm aware of the history of our country, I, I've went to college. I've studied the law. I've studied ... you know, err, ... this sort of situations. For me standing up for this constitutional right was a gift in and a blessing that I got the opportunity to do that. Because now there is now some kid that goes through the same thing that doesn't have the same opportunity to talk to the news the way I do. And that kid can watch this and go: 'you know what, I don't have to be afraid of police officers anymore, because I live in a country that says that we're free.'"

 

[lexi]

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

 

[Corronchilejano]

Let's be honest, they probably would have been permabanned.

And if there hadn't been a recording, I would probably not believe the police officers either. That's the state of the country we live in these days. It's genuinely heartbreaking.

Well, until we read the police report. When I first checked the thread no one was really discussing the fact that the cops were answering a call.

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

...wat. This is actually a wake up call to remember to look at all the data before proceeding to a conclusion. Reading the thread is enlightening.

 

[Chariot]

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

Why do people keep saying that? Her action isn't resetting every effort made to improve society.

 

[Beerman462]

I finally got a chance to listen to the tape. My favorite part is at the end when the cop tells the boyfriend that he was in his shoes he'd already be gone.

 

[Son of Cervantes]

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

This thread isn't about institutional racism, which obviously exists (and is the main reason people were believing the worst when the news first came out...GAF is not filled with people defending the status quo, one of the best things about this forum). It's about one incident.

 

[Volimar]

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

Not one person in this thread said anything remotely to that effect.

 

[SillyEskimo]

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

Martyrs should go through a vetting process before everyone hoists them on their shoulders.

 

[stufte]

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

Is that how you're choosing to interpret this? No one is saying that this some how invalidates the reality of institutional racism...

These types of responses are why we all seem to have a hard time discussing things like this.

 

[DoktorEvil]

If this conversation wasn't recorded and we only had the cop's word - how would you respond to someone who said they didn't believe her story?

I said exactly what I would've said in your hypothetical in my first post here.

I had more questions than answers.

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

How does this one instance invalidate anything?

You have an issue? Make a thread about institutional racism in police work and contribute an article.

Otherwise, drive by posting isn't welcome here. You make it worse.

I'm getting real tired of the snarky back handed one liners getting thrown around NeoGAF threads.

 

[Beerman462]

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

I wouldn't go that far, but we can probably wait at least 24hrs before we grab our pitchforks and start asking for badges.

 

[Sinatar]

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

 

[FunkyPajamas]

If this conversation wasn't recorded and we only had the cop's word - how would you respond to someone who said they didn't believe her story?

So we're going to go from "Police think every black person is breaking the law" to "Citizens think every police officer is a fascist bully", basically?

Oh cool, now we can ignore the rest of the institutional racism in policing. I was worried there for a second, glad we're back to the status quo.

Hmmm.

 

[Massive Duck. C.M.]

It is upsetting that some posters are so happy not that this was revealed not to be more police-served racism, but that they were right about not believing her. Like positively cooing with delight that they were right and others were wrong. Score one for devil's advocacy then

 

[Son of Cervantes]

It is upsetting that some posters are so happy not that this was revealed not to be more police-served racism, but that they were right about not believing her. Like positively cooing with delight that they were right and others were wrong. Score one for devil's advocacy then

Please link me to the posts with this 'cooing.' I haven't seen a single one I'd describe like that.