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Titanfall retail screencaps (XB1) show 792p resolution? CBoaT ;_;
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If the beta was 792, it wouldn't make sense for them to somehow have been running at a lower resolution internally only to upgrade back to the beta resolution because of Cboat.
This is an interesting observation to me. The game may be awesome and fun, but I feel like this is sort of an opposite situation to a game like Mirror's Edge, where even several years later, the style makes it shine (especially replayed with downsampling etc. on higher-end systems).
Are people going to play this years later and say "Wow, that memorable style certainly made it hold up"? I doubt it. But, maybe it will be like Team Fortress 2 and still played years later, and that in itself will be its legacy. Though oddly enough, Team Fortress 2 is another game with a unique art style that holds up.
Textures aren't really pretty at all, even on PC. Effects are meh at best. Some frame rate issues. What many others from the sounds of it I think just find the art very uninspired outside of the skyboxes. When you have a futuristic setting it really gives your art/creative teams a lot of room to step up with some crazy art.
Instead though, it just looked, sterile for better choice of words. I'm pretty shocked this game runs the way its looking/sounding on the xb1. Its not a visually taxing game in the slightest.
Is there any hope for at least the retail PC version getting amped up? Also, they ever say what the server tick was?
Overall its the studios first attempt. Depending on its success they may get some added support and we can hopefully see a CoD3 -> CoD4 jump in a sequel. Potential is there via gameplay and concepts, its just really lacking visually and to an extent content wise for a $60 mp only title.
It's dated, but it's not ugly. Sometimes it's downright impressive with how much is happening on the screen.
travisbickle
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Are you saying this wasn't a positive leak?
Everyone's happy with a 792p game with ugly textures. Cboat's job here is done.
This is more about his leaks being wrong moreso than anyone caring about resolution wars. I have no idea why they decided to go with such a weird one, but hey.
ThoughtsOfSpeaking
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You are missing the point entirely. As usual.
They should've lowered the resolution back to 720p in order to stabilize the framerate. I feel like Respawn got a ton of (misguided) pressure from MS to do whatever they can to get the game running at higher than 720p (even at the cost of framerate).
The miniscule rise to 792p, with accompanying framedrops to 35-40fps, just isn't worth it.
The miniscule rise to 792p, with accompanying framedrops to 35-40fps, just isn't worth it.
GoofsterStud
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I completely agree. In this type of game framerate is king.
GlamFM
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I've seen the frame rate go much lower than this in the beta.
Also some horrible tearing.
So yeah, 100% agree with you.
RedAssedApe
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Miss him? He'll technically be back for titanfalls launch
or are you assuming that he'll never post here again? (Possible I guess)BruiserBear
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Respawn are adults who've been around the development block a time or two. I'm confident they made the choices for their engine that were best for the game. Every bit of resolution matters, and they must have felt those extra pixels made a difference. Also, you have no idea what the final framerate is going to look like. How do you even know how much of a difference going down to 720p would make on the framerate?
LiquidNarwhal
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I know we're all on the Titanfall hype train here, but none of what I played I would describe as impressive, at least visually. That was on PC maxed 1080p.
statham
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get banned for another 72 hours.
Have you met the poster 'wotta'?
Games definitely not winning any awards for looks but i'd take this at 792p over killzone at whatever resolution they tell people it is every single time. If you disagree then I'm afraid you're mad.
and who's to say they didn't iron out the framerate at 792p? Sorry but I don't think it's fair at all to judge based on a beta.
Yoda
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The beta was literally a month ago, there is almost no chance between then and the game going gold that they could fix something like frame-rate dips as a result of the game pushing the hardware too hard.
sti4thewin
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streaming on xbox one version.
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right now my buddy who is completely new to the game is playing.
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right now my buddy who is completely new to the game is playing.
Dead rising had its frame rate improved in the lead up to launch, it was part of the day 1 patch.
Neuromancer
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How do we know that they never weren't planning to downgradeaton the final version to 720p?
That was a 13gig patch though.
TF is only 850mb for their day one patch...then again, TF is only a 15gig download.
One thing I like about cross-gen titles is their low resolution texture files for easy downloading.
They really care for us gamers with capped internet or living in rural areas.
StoppedInTracks
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As I said earlier it's the Source engine that hurts this game the most. Shoulda been UE3.0 IMO.
We don't know the build-version of the actual rendering code that was used in the beta.
Mr Reasonable
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How old was the build they used for the beta? Did they finish it the morning of the beta starting?
How long does it take to fix a dipping frame rate? If more than a month, how much longer?
Synless
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If your talking graphics then Killzone curb stomps this game at every turn. Gameplay though? Titanfall everytime.
ps user all round here.
and a pretty educated person as far as resolution etc go.
they can make a choice (respawn) and they have seemingly made every effort to make titanfall the best experience they can on xbone. its a fun game. Yes its not graphically the best and its def not 1080p.
big deal!
its the best they could do with their resources and time. and cboat was wrong and hes only banned for 72 hrs which btw is hardly even a slap he posts one in 2 3 months. its a ceremonial ban at most. but from mods here shows he isnt infallible and for gaffers shows we value his information and leaks.
lets just enjoy titanfall for what we have can we ? a fun game which isint a graphical showpiece which ms is pushing as a xbone only exclusive which it isnt but still a scoop for ms none the less?'
EDIT if ms starts pulling ahead just for titanfall we can have a discussion ... itll be a boost but not much more imo. if its more we can talk about it more detail and think whats wrong or right about marketing buying 3rd party etc etc ... and as a sony user there is still something to buying a 3rd party game outright ... look what happened with ssm due to clashing with destiny etc .... sometimes even 1st party doesnt work out well inspite of the best intentions.
and a pretty educated person as far as resolution etc go.
they can make a choice (respawn) and they have seemingly made every effort to make titanfall the best experience they can on xbone. its a fun game. Yes its not graphically the best and its def not 1080p.
big deal!
its the best they could do with their resources and time. and cboat was wrong and hes only banned for 72 hrs which btw is hardly even a slap he posts one in 2 3 months. its a ceremonial ban at most. but from mods here shows he isnt infallible and for gaffers shows we value his information and leaks.
lets just enjoy titanfall for what we have can we ? a fun game which isint a graphical showpiece which ms is pushing as a xbone only exclusive which it isnt but still a scoop for ms none the less?'
EDIT if ms starts pulling ahead just for titanfall we can have a discussion ... itll be a boost but not much more imo. if its more we can talk about it more detail and think whats wrong or right about marketing buying 3rd party etc etc ... and as a sony user there is still something to buying a 3rd party game outright ... look what happened with ssm due to clashing with destiny etc .... sometimes even 1st party doesnt work out well inspite of the best intentions.
I'm confident they made the wrong choice.
We're dealing with fixed pixel displays here. You don't need to be a developer to understand that 1408x792 does not divide evenly into 1920x1080. 1280x720 isn't a perfect multiple either, but it's at least a cleaner division than 792p. It's a bad choice.
If we were all using CRTs then, yes, every bit of resolution would help but with modern displays 792p is a poor choice. In the end, it will actually wind up looking virtually identical to 720p on most displays but the possibility for a bit of extra distortion exists as a result of the uneven choice.
unless you have a great explanation of why 3/2 is better than 15/11 . im going to say nope its still scaling on integer fractions. please back this up with more information/citations.
EDIT as would be same with almost any other resolution unless youre using irrational numbers (by irrational i mean the mathematical definition ) ... so unless this is a proven issue of some ratios are better than others on scaling its a non issue imo.
There's no way of knowing without Respawn chiming in, but public Betas are usually spun off from the main build a few months ahead of the beta's release.
As for how long optimizations take, that is so specific to what is causing the performance problems that your not going to get an answer. Could be a day, could be six months. Could be an easy fix, could be a mammoth amount of engineering.
SapientWolf
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720p is still 16:9. 792p is WTF.
So is 1408 x792 dude.
Well, basically cboat said the game looks like crap and subHD, and 720/792 it's a shame on next gen, even worst if you consider the poor graphics and framerate
Neuromancer
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I wonder if there are any televisions with that resolution. If so that may be the right TV to buy if you're serious about this game.
jim2point0
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Why? The Xbox never actually outputs that resolution to your TV.
Every bit of resolution also impacts the framerate. On every engine in every game. Unless the game now runs at a constant, locked 60fps, they've made the wrong choice in my opinion. Also for the reasons that dark10x has pointed out.
I do feel that they've just pushed it as far away from 720p as they could before the framerate started to drop just too often, to avoid a stigma.
Unknown One
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Wow, it is still pretty ugly at 4k.
It's Sat night/ Sunday morning, I'm guessing their drunk?
PdotMichael
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It's based on a 10 years old engine. Can't be helped.
Psycho_Mantis
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I think a simple zoom on a scaled image without any interpolation reveals the issue.
Here is the control panel gear icon used on NeoGaf. Both were upscaled to 1080p from 720p and 792p respectively without interpolation and then further zoomed in to demonstrate the difference. The 1080p gear is completely clean and artifact free, of course.
Notice how uneven those raw pixels appear in the 792p gear. They vary in size and thickness all around the gear producing a very uneven image.
This is also why hitting native panel resolutions is so important.
LiquidNarwhal
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leave me out of this console warrior tier shit, seriously.
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