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Quantum Break coming to PC and Xbox simultaneously on April 5th (?)

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Gbraga

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spannicus said:
Will buy for PC then. For maxed out reasons hehe.
This is gonna be a looker on PC if true.
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If I can run it at 30fps on Xbox One settings I'll be more than happy!

If not, then I'll look forward to my next PC upgrade so I can play it. Just being a possibility now is awesome.
 
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Ol No Bones

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Ales said:
Sony first party and second party are only ps4 not pc ;)I bought the x1 for exclusive and instead I find myself a useless console.
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Ok then sell it and use the money to buy more games. Sounds like MS just did you a huge favor if you have a PC that will out perform the Xbox One.

This reasoning is so damn stupid. MS is opening releasing their games on the platform I obviously prefer! Damn then!
 
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Steverulez

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Ales said:
Sony first party and second party are only ps4 not pc ;)I bought the x1 for exclusive and instead I find myself a useless console.
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Helldivers, new Kojima game, everybody's gone to the rapture (soon), I'm sure there will be more too given then post they made on their blog about console exclusives and full exclusives.

If it's a problem then sell it, ms made it quite clear this has been coming
 
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Genio88

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You all must understand that Quantum Break is not a Xbox One first party exclusive, Microsoft don't own Remedy, they just have a deal with them where they found and publish their games getting console exclusivity, Remedy is well known for their PC past and they have plenty of fans amongst PC gamers, that's why, just like Alan Wake did before, Quantum Break was already pretty likely to arrive on PC, the only "weird" thing here is that rumors want it to be released simultaneously on both platform rather than with a few months delay...Beyond everything though that's not being confirmed yet right?
 
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Ushay

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MS seem to be approaching exclusives with Xbox as a 'brand' in mind instead of simple console exclusivity. So W10 & Xbox will probably be where to find their games going forward, which is an excellent move imo,
 
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Banjo-Kazooie

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Genio88 said:
You all must understand that Quantum Break is not a Xbox One first party exclusive, Microsoft don't own Remedy, they just have a deal with them where they found and publish their games getting console exclusivity, Remedy is well known for their PC past and they have plenty of fans amongst PC gamers, that's why, just like Alan Wake did before, Quantum Break was already pretty likely to arrive on PC, the only "weird" thing here is that rumors want it to be released simultaneously on both platform rather than with a few months delay...Beyond everything though that's not being confirmed yet right?
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Microsoft owns the QB IP so they most certainly DO control where it releases. This post is moot.
 
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CrimsonEclipse

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Ol No Bones said:
Ok then sell it and use the money to buy more games. Sounds like MS just did you a huge favor if you have a PC that will out perform the Xbox One.

This reasoning is so damn stupid. MS is opening releasing their games on the platform I obviously prefer! Damn then!
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Don't get the reasoning behind it as well.

Genio88 said:
You all must understand that Quantum Break is not a Xbox One first party exclusive, Microsoft don't own Remedy, they just have a deal with them where they found and publish their games getting console exclusivity, Remedy is well known for their PC past and they have plenty of fans amongst PC gamers, that's why, just like Alan Wake did before, Quantum Break was already pretty likely to arrive on PC, the only "weird" thing here is that rumors want it to be released simultaneously on both platform rather than with a few months delay...Beyond everything though that's not being confirmed yet right?
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I think MS owns the IP.
 
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Ales

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Steverulez said:
Helldivers, new Kojima game, everybody's gone to the rapture (soon), I'm sure there will be more too given then post they made on their blog about console exclusives and full exclusives.

If it's a problem then sell it, ms made it quite clear this has been coming
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You're talking about games that are not sony ip ;)Uncharted,ecc.. are only ps4.
I bought the xbox at d1 and were not these plans and declarations from MS.
 
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ViviOggi

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EatChildren said:
It might be me, but I just don't feel the PC platform is comparable enough in market philosophy to consoles to even warrant concern behind "Xbox exclusives" making their way to both services instead of just the one.

Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo exclusives make sense as business as you the customer are buying into a locked hardware ecosystem financed and controlled by the parent company. You adhere to their rules, their services, their design, and in return receive access to buying exclusive software. Buying an Xbox/PlayStation/WiiU is like buying a hardware license to further purchase very specific software. Ergo the bread and butter of this business, that being gaming hardware, is to provide said software as exclusives to tempt a long term investment in the hardware itself.

The reality is that PC is not comparable as it is not a locked or controlled ecosystem by nature. Specific services within the PC ecosystem can be locked and controlled, but that's the point; they're optional and this itself is the competitive business. Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo compete with hardware space via software. The PC business is different, and instead publishers generally compete with services via software. And these services can be applied to any number of hardware configurations and designs that do not benefit the service provider/publisher with a monetary return.

Microsoft wants you to buy Quantum Break on Xbox One, because the assumption is that if you buy an Xbox One you probably game a lot on consoles, and they want you gaming in their console instead of the similar PlayStation 4 ecosystem, given a majority of software is a crossover between the two. Meanwhile people who game primarily on PC generally don't see the consoles as competitors, but instead a separate ecosystem. They might buy an Xbox One exclusively to play Quantum Break, but that's likely going to be where it begins and ends, sans other Xbox One exclusives. In short, they won't buy into the entire console software ecosystem, as they're already invested in one.

By providing "Xbox One exclusive" games on PC they are competing as a service, not as a platform, in an ecosystem that is all about services and not platforms.
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Great post that highlights the fact that, unlike some posters here think, selling a few consoles to main PC gamers isn't the be all, end all. MS and Sony don't make muvh profit on the hardware, console business is all about licensing fees on games and online subscriptions, so the people who buy a console for a handful of exclusives - generally those are SP games in my experience so no long-term Gold/Plus commitment either - won't beat the software sales to the audience that is already there on PC, ESPECIALLY long-term. And even if you're publishing on Steam you're seeing more money per sale than on console where the majority of rew releases is still bought at retail.
 
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Genio88

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Banjo-Kazooie said:
Microsoft owns the QB IP so they most certainly DO control where it releases. This post is moot.
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Yes they own the IP though they don't own Remedy, and Remedy has a huge PC background, so for sure if Remedy ask Microsoft to have the game released also on Windows PC as part of their deal surely Microsoft won't argue with that, being also Windows their platform and willing to keep the relationship with Remedy solid
 
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mcrommert

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I really don't understand a lot of you...its a net positive if microsoft starts publishing its games day and date on the pc...perhaps you wasted some 400 dollars on an xbox one (i don't see how that is a waste) but this is good for the future

Also it doesn't matter to microsoft if they sell on xbox or on windows store...they take the same cut. I would find it strange if they published the game on steam though...they don't get the same cut and valve steals some of the money
 
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CrimsonEclipse

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Ales said:
You're talking about games that are not sony ip ;)Uncharted,ecc.. are only ps4.
I bought the xbox at d1 and were not these plans and declarations from MS.
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Again, like someone else said get rid of it. Them releasing the game on PC no way in shape or form is going to ruin the experience for you. Times have changed and if MS needs to adapt then let them. I'd rather for them to release a new unproven IP on both X1/PC which will increase its likelihood of being successful then it bombing and we don't get another one. That's just me though.
 
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chromatic9

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Wonder if they've changed with how QB is tracking?

Interesting how it maybe day one PC when you consider what Microsott did to secure Alan Wake, which was to be a PC/360 game. Took almost two years to appear on PC.

Knuf said:
Even if Xbone is doing better than 360 (not for long, I believe), do you really think that higher MS execs or even Phil are pleased with Xbone results? They are still behind the Wii U in many countries around the world, and they lost the 2 places (US/UK) where 360 completely annihilated its direct competitor last gen, so I think nobody at MS is thinking that Xbone is doing just fine, no.
I firmly believe that from now on we won't see any more Xbone MS exclusives outside of Forza, Halo and Gears, and this change wouldn't have happened, had the console met their sales targets.
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If you take out Nov Dec 2013 then I think its tracking lower than 360.

Hope Remedy have something good. Not really sure I want Live action scenes in a third person shooter story based game but not seen much of it to be fair.

Just to add, MS has a much more important job of keeping Windows attractive for consumers. The days of everyone sat next to a desktop pc running Windows to browse the web are long gone. MS do have a substantial business enterprise to fall back on but they'll want the every day user to stay on Windows.
 
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Steverulez

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Ales said:
The situation for kojima game it is like that for Street Fighter.Sony does not bring its flagship IP on pc.
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I think it's a bit presumptuous Kojima is making something the size of a flagship product and still intending to launch it on ps4.

My point remains the same though, clearly Sony don't feel threatened by PC and it cuts into their userbase in a significant way
 
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10k

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Chris1 said:
It was always coming to PC but the same day? I don't know about that. I've always thought it'd be at a later date.
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No it wasn't always coming to PC. But if it is that's great. Scalebound is the last remaining IP along with Halo holding out them PC ports.
 
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jelly

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patapuf said:
What people seem to forget is that "i buy a console for exclusives" is actually not that great for the manufacturer unless you put out as much stuff as Nintendo.

MS (and Sony) don't earn money when you buy a console. They earn money when you buy games. A PC gamer is unlikely to buy any 3rd party games on Xbox, he is unlikely to have an Xbox live subscription. He buys the first party games he wants - and for MS, they get the exact same amount of money on the W10 store than they do on Xbox.

In fact, having the Win 10 Store be more popular is probably strategically more important to MS than a few console sales.
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Good post.
 
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Raylan

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Steverulez said:
I think it's a bit presumptuous Kojima is making something the size of a flagship product and still intending to launch it on ps4.

My point remains the same though, clearly Sony don't feel threatened by PC and it cuts into their userbase in a significant way
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We don't know anything about the Kojima IP or who owns it. So your argument is invalid.
Yes, Helldivers and EGTTR is coming to PC. Smaller IP's made by (smaller) indie devs. Releasing it on PC to make more money for them (the indie dev) is a good choice. But you won't see big AAA exclusives like Uncharted, inFamous, Bloodborne, Horizon (and so on) on the PC.
That's what he (Ales) is talking about.
 
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JayWood2010

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Genio88 said:
Yes they own the IP though they don't own Remedy, and Remedy has a huge PC background, so for sure if Remedy ask Microsoft to have the game released also on Windows PC as part of their deal surely Microsoft won't argue with that, being also Windows their platform and willing to keep the relationship with Remedy solid
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Phil Spencer is pro XB+PC. It makes the game healthier which allows them to make more games whether it be on XB or PC. He tends to especially do this when a 2nd party developer works on a game whether they own it or not. Its a gesture of good will for both parties. If you want my opinion, it isnt a question of "if" Quantum Break comes to PC, but rather "when". Remedy likes PC, and Phil Spencer likes PC, plus it helps make both parties more money.

If they release it simultaneously on PC+XB then the announcement will likely come Feb 27th or whenever their event is. If its not simultaneous, then you may be waiting a while for the announcement, but i would fully expect it to be on PC, which I will support. Ill get it on Xbox, but as long as it helps them make more games then im all for it.
 
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Ales

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Steverulez said:
I think it's a bit presumptuous Kojima is making something the size of a flagship product and still intending to launch it on ps4.

My point remains the same though, clearly Sony don't feel threatened by PC and it cuts into their userbase in a significant way
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ps4 sells like crazy and is the most powerful console with best muti.The only positive aspect of x1 were exclusive.You really do not see the difference between the two?
 
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Raylan

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Genio88 said:
Yes they own the IP though they don't own Remedy, and Remedy has a huge PC background, so for sure if Remedy ask Microsoft to have the game released also on Windows PC as part of their deal surely Microsoft won't argue with that, being also Windows their platform and willing to keep the relationship with Remedy solid
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Microsoft owns the IP. They say what goes and what not. The reason for all this is that MS is pushing the "on PC and Xbox" thingy. Releasing games on the Windows platforms. This will happen more often now with MS 1st Party games.
 
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Chris1

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10k said:
No it wasn't always coming to PC. But if it is that's great. Scalebound is the last remaining IP along with Halo holding out them PC ports.
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Didn't mean that officially, but did anyone actually think the game would never go to PC? to me and most others in other topics about it, the game was all but guaranteed to be on PC at some point or another. The surprise/news here is that it's day 1, not that it's going to PC.

If any xbox exclusive was to go on PC, QB was the first in line really.
 
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Micerider

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I have an Xbox One, but I would certainly rather pick it for PC if it's a decent port. It would be a great move for me and I don't think it makes the game any less valuable for people that owns Xbox One only.
 
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