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WSJ: NX to use carts. Analysts have said an announcement could be prior to TGS

When will Nintendo unveil the NX?


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MuchoMalo

Banned
Either analysts are wrong (as usual) or Nintendo holds a digital event and has press hands-on a week or two later. We'll know by Tuesday.
 

manueldelalas

Time Traveler
Games will launch with 1 GB on the disk and mandatory 100 GB day1 "patch".
Most games are not released in physical format this days, and this will only get worse.

The thing about NX is that since it's hybrid and semi portable, installs will probably not be mandatory (may not even be an option), so games in physical format need to work out of the box, with out without day one patch.

I think it's time to start collecting those physical NX games, might get valuable in the future.
 

Koren

Member
What's patches got to do with discs/carts? You can't save patches on discs.
But you could save them on carts if they have a large rewritable space included (which some rumors hinted at IIRC). You could also save DLC in the cart.

In fact, I think it may be an advantage of carts above discs...

I hope they'll do this. I'm annoyed I have to update ALL my pokemon games on ALL my consoles.
 
Why are we saying 'going back to carts'?

Their handhelds have always been carts, right?

Or is the NX now not a handheld?

I'm confused!
 

MacTag

Banned
eh, that's asking Nintendo to be cutting edge so I wouldn't get my hopes up. At least SDXC still trumps the read/write speeds of disc based consoles and competes with the Vita.
SDXC trumps Vita too, it's cards are sub-Class 10 speed. Really cheap and slow.

Games will launch with 1 GB on the disk and mandatory 100 GB day1 "patch".
Supposedly cards will be 32GB for launch. This probably means it won't be long until we see 64GB cards if past Nintendo handhelds are anything to go by, their format storage capacities tend to historically double within the first year from launch.
 

Mr Swine

Banned
Wasn't it rumoured that Nintendo went with the same card maker as the ones that did DS and 3DS? Why would they go with Toshiba or Samsung?
 

LewieP

Member
But you could save them on carts if they have a large rewritable space included (which some rumors hinted at IIRC). You could also save DLC in the cart.

In fact, I think it may be an advantage of carts above discs...

I hope they'll do this. I'm annoyed I have to update ALL my pokemon games on ALL my consoles.

I don't think that's likely (it would probably drive manufacturing cost of carts up) but it's not impossible.

They would probably still let you use internal storage or SD cards. Similar to how existing consoles handle it.
 

hemo memo

Gold Member
Are you guys serious or what? Why everybody thinks of SNES and Game Boy cartridges type when the ones that NX will use will be at least like the 3DS ones if not even smaller?
Yes 3DS uses cartridges too! Megaton!

I think size might be a problem for 3rd party ports/games seeing how game sizes and everyone is using Bluray.

Yes 3DS use cartridge but it's a portable and this one supposed to be both portable/home console.
 
No, guys, it'll be called the Nintendo All.

Nintendo All
PlayStation 4
Xbox One

All 4 One and One 4 All (console and handheld users).

I cracked the code.
 

Dr. Buni

Member
Carts are cool, but in the end I will be going full digital again, so it is not somefin I am concerned about.
 

MacTag

Banned
I think size might be a problem for 3rd party ports/games seeing how game sizes and everyone is using Bluray.

Yes 3DS use cartridge but it's a portable and this one supposed to be both portable/home console.
Optical discs on consoles will be smaller than game cards soon probably. Storage isn't an issue but expense might be.

Reminds of the mid 80s when cart sizes quickly passed disks and became the preferred although more costly medium again.
 

killroy87

Member
Someone here suggested Nintendo Go. I like that, and I believe it to be true.

"Games on the Go" and "Fun on the Go" write themselves.
 
I have a feeling they will announce it in January next year. They showed us a bunch of 3DS games yesterday and I don't think they want to sabotage the 3DS christmas sales by showing you a better and newer product before that. They want to give the 3DS sales a last bump by releasing 3DS Galaxy. But that's just my gut feeling.
That would also mean that the real release isn't March 2017. I think they gave us that date because they wanted to make investors and fans happy but also knew, that this wasn't possible.

My theory: Show the console in January, show games at E3 2017 and release it Fall 2017.

But I hope it wont come to this ;).
 

doop_

Banned
I have a feeling they will announce it in January next year. They showed us a bunch of 3DS games yesterday and I don't think they want to sabotage the 3DS christmas sales by showing you a better and newer product before that. They want to give the 3DS sales a last bump by releasing 3DS Galaxy. But that's just my gut feeling.
That would also mean that the real release isn't March 2017. I think they gave us that date because they wanted to make investors and fans happy but also knew, that this wasn't possible.

My theory: Show the console in January, show games at E3 2017 and release it Fall 2017.

But I hope it wont come to this ;).
NX is apparently ahead of schedule for release in march.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
I have a feeling they will announce it in January next year. They showed us a bunch of 3DS games yesterday and I don't think they want to sabotage the 3DS christmas sales by showing you a better and newer product before that. They want to give the 3DS sales a last bump by releasing 3DS Galaxy. But that's just my gut feeling.
That would also mean that the real release isn't March 2017. I think they gave us that date because they wanted to make investors and fans happy but also knew, that this wasn't possible.

My theory: Show the console in January, show games at E3 2017 and release it Fall 2017.

But I hope it wont come to this ;).
If this is the case, Nintendo's gonna have to do a shit-ton of damage control with their investors. And I'm not sure if a handful of new games for an otherwise dying platform will be enough to keep them satisfied. And while sure, there's always the mobile games, their most successful mobile game (Pokémon GO) wasn't a result of the DeNA partnership & the one that was didn't hold its popularity for that long (hopefully that changes for Animal Crossing & Fire Emblem).

But the NX is said to be ahead of schedule, so I don't think we'll have to worry.
 
R

Rösti

Unconfirmed Member
I fully welcome an NX related announcement prior to Tokyo Game Show 2016 (September 15-18). One could perhaps suggest that such an announcement would not be made on September 7 or September 13 due to Sony's PlayStation Meeting and Asia Press Conference respectively.
 

PSOreo

Member
If Nintendo nails the cartridge look and makes it reminiscent for nostalgia lovers they might be on to a winner. You could imagine them market it in a way that they might pull some of the hardcore fan base and adults who use to play NES back. I like the prospect of what they could achieve but I think they might fall short and push out another white plastic box.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Do large sized cartridges cost more than discs? If that's the case I can't see publishers being too happy about that.

Thraktor put up a huge list of why cartridges are a good idea a while back. If I had the link, I'd post it.
 
NX is apparently ahead of schedule for release in march.

I thought these were rumors? Doesn't have to be true.

Don't get me wrong, I want to have it as soon as possible too but don't you think releasing a console 3 months before E3 is weird?

There are 3 scenarios:
They release the console in March and show you all the upcoming games (they need to show you everything they can to convince you to buy it) - Then what will they show at E3?

They release in March but only release BotW and some smaller games. That would be fatal.

They unveil the console before E3 but the full blow-out is at E3 and they release it shortly after.
 

fernoca

Member
If Nintendo nails the cartridge look and makes it reminiscent for nostalgia lovers they might be on to a winner. You could imagine them market it in a way that they might pull some of the hardcore fan base and adults who use to play NES back. I like the prospect of what they could achieve but I think they might fall short and push out another white plastic box.
They've been using cartridges all this years. The 3DS uses them and considering the alleged dimensions, it would be something like that.

Guess they could shape them as small NES cartridges if anything. But looks won't do much on such small size.
 

Anth0ny

Member
clearly those analysts aren't neogaf forum members obsessing over every leak and drawing conclusions based on past event invitations

announcement prior to TGS ain't happening fam. january 2017 nintendo direct.
 

tr1p1ex

Member
I like carts better except for the fact your saves are on them.

You always have to think twice before trading in a cart because you won't get your saves back.

NOt that Nintendo couldn't fix that in 2 seconds, but I think they like it.
 
Either analysts are wrong (as usual) or Nintendo holds a digital event and has press hands-on a week or two later. We'll know by Tuesday.

The WSJ doesn't really report "rumors" so much as unofficial news. They're a premier business news publication, there is a high degree of certainty to what they report.
 

Neoxon

Junior Member
I thought these were rumors? Doesn't have to be true.

Don't get me wrong, I want to have it as soon as possible too but don't you think releasing a console 3 months before E3 is weird?

There are 3 scenarios:
They release the console in March and show you all the upcoming games (they need to show you everything they can to convince you to buy it) - Then what will they show at E3?

They release in March but only release BotW and some smaller games. That would be fatal.

They unveil the console before E3 but the full blow-out is at E3 and they release it shortly after.
They'd still have games to release for the rest of the year as well as the next year, right? Those games could be shown at E3 2017.
 

doop_

Banned
I thought these were rumors? Doesn't have to be true.

Don't get me wrong, I want to have it as soon as possible too but don't you think releasing a console 3 months before E3 is weird?

There are 3 scenarios:
They release the console in March and show you all the upcoming games (they need to show you everything they can to convince you to buy it) - Then what will they show at E3?

They release in March but only release BotW and some smaller games. That would be fatal.

They unveil the console before E3 but the full blow-out is at E3 and they release it shortly after.
That's why I said apparently in my reply and not a flat answer.
 

PSOreo

Member
They've been using cartridges all this years. The 3DS uses them and considering the alleged dimensions, it would be something like that.

Guess they could shape them as small NES cartridges if anything. But looks won't do much on such small size.

I guess when I hear the word cartridge I automatically think of the old school ones rather than the SD cards you get for the portable Nintendo consoles.
 

Plinko

Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
I like carts better except for the fact your saves are on them.

You always have to think twice before trading in a cart because you won't get your saves back.

NOt that Nintendo couldn't fix that in 2 seconds, but I think they like it.

Doesn't 3DS let you make backups of your saves?
 

MacTag

Banned
Do large sized cartridges cost more than discs? If that's the case I can't see publishers being too happy about that.
From a raw materials standpoint solid state will always cost more than optical. Of course that cost can be mitigated through licensing, logistics, etc. And given that digital is orders of magnitude cheaper than both, and that's where the industry's headed anyway, it's sort of a moot point long term.
 

E-phonk

Banned
Thraktor put up a huge list of why cartridges are a good idea a while back. If I had the link, I'd post it.

I think you mean terrell if it's about costs & logistics?
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=192728798&postcount=557

Thraktor did put up a few posts on how cards can be better than discs:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=211457016&postcount=4005

Is the common opinion still that this console is coming out around March time? Never seems like a good time to launch a console to be honest...

DS launched in march in EU and it did amazingly well.
 
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