PS4 isn't ahead 2-1 in the U.S.. Maybe during the first five months of 2017 only but definitely not overall. The split between Xbox One and PS4 in the U.S. is around 45/55 the last time I checked.
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[Rumour] MS France: 36.2 Millions of Xbox One sold worldwide
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PS4 isn't ahead 2-1 in the U.S.. Maybe during the first five months of 2017 only but definitely not overall. The split between Xbox One and PS4 in the U.S. is around 45/55 the last time I checked.
Salty Rice
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This is most likely shipped while Sonys numbers are sold through.
Yet still that number sounds too high imo.
Why is this okay again?
Hopefully the system gains even more traction with awesome new hardware and games coming out
InsaneTiger
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Of course, businesses NEED Office because the alternatives are not good enough. The move from traditional Office with volume licensing to cloud-based, subscription based service is driving even more revenue.
Those 2-1 lead over the XB1 in US is for the last few months, not the all time sales. LTD difference is a bit over 2m.
No man. Xbox is only like 2M behind the PlayStation in the US.
hanspampel
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The other image is even more interesting.
this one is way more interesting
1. NA not US only
2. very very rough number used to make a point
3. just recently - not on a lifetime sales base
ClosingADoor
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Shipped numbers? I can see it.
Xbox above Windows in revenue is interesting. They pretty much gave Windows 10 free everywhere and are counting on subscriptions for Office and server stuff. Which is a smart move in the long term.
Xbox above Windows in revenue is interesting. They pretty much gave Windows 10 free everywhere and are counting on subscriptions for Office and server stuff. Which is a smart move in the long term.
LukasTaves
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The other image is even more interesting.
That is known from the fiscal reports.
That's one of the reasons Ms is bringing Xbox and Windows together, not to save xbox, but to increase Windows revenue through the windows store.
Ahh, fair enough.
I've never kept track of console sales, is the XBO still outpacing the 360 in sales? I thought I read that it was earlier in the generation. If it is, where was the 360 at this point of it's life cycle?
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No way. There are reasons Sony caught up last gen that MS can't replicate.
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No way. There are reasons Sony caught up last gen that MS can't replicate.
this one is way more interesting
We had a thread about this in the OT a few weeks ago. MS is certainly the most diverse of the big tech companies.
No way. Sony is a monster outside the US. never gonna happen.
BeforeU
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That number doesn't seem doubtful. I was expecting them to be around 30-31 million.
exact 2:1 gap
0% chance of that.
not only Xbox brand is not strong across the globe but also Sony had so many heavy hitters on their second half of the gen.
In Microsoft's case, its the opposite.
exact 2:1 gap
0% chance of that.
not only Xbox brand is not strong across the globe but also Sony had so many heavy hitters on their second half of the gen.
In Microsoft's case, its the opposite.
I can't. Xbox brand doesn't have as much strength outside of North America and UK as the Playstation brand.
Microsoft could have possibly caught up to Sony in North America (onl) if the Xbox One X came in at $399 but it's not.
RichiRamjag
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Thought they were around 30, but congrats if they've upped it. Had to switch my son to Xbox as all his buddies from school own one lol.
LordRaptor
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The PS3 was routinely outsold by the 360 in North America but was making up the difference in territories like Europe and Japan.
I genuinely do not believe that Xbox is making up the difference in Europe or Japan.
If you ignore all the factors that led up to that, I can see why one would think its possible
InsaneTiger
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this one is way more interesting
I would love to see OTHER defined. Half their revenue was Office and Server/Azure but their OTHER is nearly 20%, what could it be? Surface and Xbox are separate so...accessories? No.
hanspampel
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yes, those are official numbers from the 10K and 10Q reports for the SEC
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/Investor/sec-filings.aspx
majority of others is royalties
LukasTaves
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They gave windows for free, but to a portion that almost never bought new windows. The crude of the sales (OEM PCs and corporation licenses) were unaffected by that giveaway.
What truly hurt it, is that the sales from OEMs are dwelling down, (hence why they entered in the hardware market with the surface line, to reignite OEMs to compete with apple and google's offerings). I have no idea about the business market for windows is declining or not though.
Kenzodielocke
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Microsoft doesn't release numbers so I doubt it's coming from them. Low 30's shipped me thinks.
You've been on a roll lately.
Still pretty far behind regardless though which is why MS isn't going to talk about it much.
Primethius
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They didn't announce it because the number is either shipped or not true at all. It doesn't mesh with any data we have, which points to it being heavily incorrect.
Also, I don't think MS is going to announce any sales milestones anytime soon.
LFMartins86
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Xbox 360 was relatively popular outside the US, the Xbox One isn't.
It's more likely that the Switch will catch X1 on sales than the X1 catching PS4.
No.
Dreamcast also had the lead over PS2, because it launched earlier.
The same is true for 360/ps3.
It's not true this gen.
Saying that the One can close a gap of 25-30 million is insane.
Confused Cheeseburger
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That is absolutely not the same situation happening here.
Windows was never a huge revenue earner for consumers and you're right all the money came from business. I mean how many consumers actually buy windows directly?
Sangetsu-II
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NA isn't the same as NPD maybe?
Majmun
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InsaneTiger
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Most consumers bought Windows through their OEM laptops or desktops. So yeah, business was/is the big driver.
It made 2B last Q.
RamzaIsCool
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Is it plausible that the US percentage of WW sales is under 50%? Which would be the case if these numbers are true.
Right, that's what I'm saying the business eat the cost or you can't directly account for it towards the consumer.
There's basically zero chance that happens.
Lol.. wait, you're serious ?
InsaneTiger
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Yeah, the revenue MS earns is almost all through business, we little consumers are toy money.
LordOcidax
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Fake, According to Sony the PS4 is outselling the XBO at 3:1 ratio in Europe, Whe have the estimates of the NPD and they are death is Japan... Or Maybe they are selling millions in Brazil and India, China?
The Last One
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But wouldn't that mean almost 7 million Xbox on the shelves? Isn't this a little too much?
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