Over a ~5m difference versus what GAF thought? lolno
Well, 5M is beyond any estimative
Over a ~5m difference versus what GAF thought? lolno
I'm discounting fuzzy math on both sides and asking you to actually give your methodology on your own absolutes as to why these figure are impossible, which you keep failing to deliver on. The truth is you've been out since we started.
the wikipedia page or the numbers from microsoft france?
Just because wikipedia says something doesn't make it true. I'm just saying they made it up and are saying vgc said it.
It's still close to half of PS4. MS wouldn't be disclosing this figure generally even if it was real.Well, 5M is beyond any estimative
those numbers are official MS revenue numbers
People don't learn after all these years huh.SonyGAF is on a meltdown this week. You would have thought someone killed their parents or something.
SonyGAF is on a meltdown this week. You would have thought someone killed their parents or something.
what has that to do with anything?
Fuzzy math? When EA say 2016 ended at 79m total installed users, you can accept that figure as genuine, their estimates are for the year going forward, not previous. If subtracting Sony's sold figure of 53.4 offered on January 5th this year at CES is somehow fuzzy maths leaving a total of 25.6 then by all means, go with the 36.2m figure found via a fan website and believe they sold 10.6m WW H1 despite being down YOY in NA...
EDIT: lol it's chartz via wikipedia, bwahaha
SonyGAF is on a meltdown this week. You would have thought someone killed their parents or something.
SonyGAF is on a meltdown this week. You would have thought someone killed their parents or something.
Funny attitude on this thread. Like, is their so much reluctancy when Sony shares their own numbers?
Looks like theres people very very sad if this is true.
that sounds like way too much.
SonyGAF is on a meltdown this week. You would have thought someone killed their parents or something.
See above gif wellToo much for your mind to handle because you love Sony or...?
Too much for your mind to handle because you love Sony or...?
Only when Sony quotes Wikipedia or VG Chartz for their sales numbers, which they have never done...
You're stating they don't mesh based on a 3 year old ratio. You're piling current sellthrough estimates on to a shipment figure from back when the console had only released in 13 markets for about 7 months. In reality what you're doing isn't much different from VGC's methodology (ie: guesswork based on public sources with some personal ballparking). And then you try tried to sideline things with statements about non-existent 3rd part estimates and magic IR to shipment ceilings and this bizarre burden of proof strawman.Absolutes? Don't put words in my mouth. I stated the data doesn't mesh with numbers we have. That data being the recent NPD, UK, JP and other market sales data alongside whatever was the last known ratio of the various markets.
You attempted to shift the burden of proof production on me as if me saying that it's highly unlikely the US was not going to be under 50% share was something ridiculous.
You chose a shitty hill to defend. That's not my problem.
36.2m shipped seems believable, too bad we don't know the real source of these numbers.
This should be fun.
Wait...what?Hum, this website is the biggest MS fanboy source in France, they very often post innacurate things just to shit on Sony, so personally I hightly doubt about anything I read there.
It's the kind of website where the members call the PS4 the "Piss4", so...
Xbox 360 had the lead over the PS3 and that caught up. I can see a similar situation happening this gen as well.
Seems like you are too emotionally invested in this if I am being honest.Too much for your mind to handle because you love Sony or...?
Except for Halo 2, none of the numbers in the OP match VGC.There should a title update then, because its very misleading that it says MS France, but actually is something else
This would be ideal.Can someone here with twitter just ask MS France via a tweet? Or even just ask Phil Spencer? Maybe we will get lucky and someone will respond and disown the infographic (or not).
Guys, do the math (according to Wikipedia France):
US: 18,40 millions +
EU: 11.0 millions +
UK: 4.20 millions +
France: 1.502.324 +
Germany: 1.127.121 +
Japan: 150.857
=
WW: 36.2 million
Can someone here with twitter just ask MS France via a tweet? Or even just ask Phil Spencer? Maybe we will get lucky and someone will respond and disown the infographic (or not).
Eu without UK France and Germany is at 11 ML? How is it even possible?
Except they aren't?
You might want to read the whole thread.
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EA does not have access to the actual numbers. They use Sony's fiscal reports + guesstimates from MS to come to a low end figure for their estimates. They aren't using MS's internal figures.
Afaik we are still in the dark on the source. We should wait until we sort that out before people get up in arms over the numbers one way or the other.
Eu without UK France and Germany is at 11 ML? How is it even possible?
ps4 at 53.4m million is correct
that's the official number from Sony for end of December 2016
That sounds like a very fanboyish thing to say.Too much for your mind to handle because you love Sony or...?
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Eu without UK France and Germany is at 11 ML? How is it even possible?
Didn't Sony themselves just last week announce over 60 million sold?
Hum, this website is the biggest MS fanboy source in France, they very often post innacurate things just to shit on Sony, so personally I hightly doubt about anything I read there.
It's the kind of website where the members call the PS4 the "Piss4", so...
Too much for your mind to handle because you love Sony or...?
I can never stop laughing at the term sonygaf lol.SonyGAF is on a meltdown this week. You would have thought someone killed their parents or something.
I have and your point?
Its not. XBox One is likely at less than 2 millions in France, same in Germany.Eu without UK France and Germany is at 11 ML? How is it even possible?
Yeah lolis that Woolie?