get2sammyb
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... Not as we currently know it, no. But they're clearly changing approach -- if this is even true, of course.
The only surprise here is that it's simultaneous really. Again, if true.
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Quantum Break coming to PC and Xbox simultaneously on April 5th (?)
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... Not as we currently know it, no. But they're clearly changing approach -- if this is even true, of course.
The only surprise here is that it's simultaneous really. Again, if true.
Sony does Console exclusive deals that still allow for a PC version, like SFV for example. They also ported Helldivers and are in the process of porting Rapture.
They don't see PC as much of a thread to their business as each other is what i'm getting at.
Chobel
Member
More platforms = more money.
Pantaghana
Member
From the comments I've seen, Denuvo doesn't make modding outright impossible, but it makes it a much bigger hassle.
Because they don't control a large portion of the PC market.
Vincent Grayson
Member
Yup. QB is one of the few things that looks interesting on XBO. If it's another game coming to PC also though, then that's just one less reason for me to get an XBO.
The news article is gone now... huh...
http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/quantum-break/news/quantum_break,53475,3267774.html
"Artikel oder Seite nicht gefunden." - "Article or page not found."
http://www.gamestar.de/spiele/quantum-break/news/quantum_break,53475,3267774.html
"Artikel oder Seite nicht gefunden." - "Article or page not found."
That I dont know. Sometimes embargoed content is auto scheduled, maybe they set the time for the news part wrong.
We will find out later today anyway
Maximilian Kolbe
Member
Who knows, what time will the trailer release btw?
Dictator93
Member
I think the large international company has more representative information on criss-crossing demographics via its market research than what can be deduced from a handful of possible "concern trolling" posts on NeoGAF.
Because they dont own W10 and a Store.
dancrane212
Member
Yes! Give Quantum Break every chance of being successful out of the gate rather than months or a year down the line like Alan Wake.
Previews will go up in two and a half hour.
Gemüsepizza
Member
Not having Denuvo will hurt a game like Quantum Break more than not having easy mod support. I don't even believe that Denuvo has a noticeably negative effect on sales.
So many people on here act like the people working at these companies are idiots and they know better.
LostDonkey
Member
I think the fact MS puts a lot of its Xbox games on PC these days is because they now (and about time too) treat the PC platform as an Xbox service.
Whether you have the Xbox One or a Windows PC you can have access to the Xbox services and infrastructure. That's how it should be imo, it's the same damn company after all.
Whether you have the Xbox One or a Windows PC you can have access to the Xbox services and infrastructure. That's how it should be imo, it's the same damn company after all.
But a sale is a sale I've been told. They don't do it as it weakens their console appeal, would you bother with either wii u or ps4 if it's big titles came to PC?.
This always will happen. Doesn't mean that is relevant overall.
People that play hardcore games on PC aren't in the mass market of people that want a cheap console.
CyberPunked
Member
That's pretty great if true.
So why hasn't ms been putting games day and date on Windows store since Windows 8? Why isnt halo on there?
Neogaf is an enthusiast forum and I'd bet one of the few places you'll find people willing to buy a console for one or two games or already having a PC and Xbox One.
EatChildren
Currently polling second in Australia's federal election (first in the Gold Coast), this feral may one day be your Bogan King.
It might be me, but I just don't feel the PC platform is comparable enough in market philosophy to consoles to even warrant concern behind "Xbox exclusives" making their way to both services instead of just the one.
Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo exclusives make sense as business as you the customer are buying into a locked hardware ecosystem financed and controlled by the parent company. You adhere to their rules, their services, their design, and in return receive access to buying exclusive software. Buying an Xbox/PlayStation/WiiU is like buying a hardware license to further purchase very specific software. Ergo the bread and butter of this business, that being gaming hardware, is to provide said software as exclusives to tempt a long term investment in the hardware itself.
The reality is that PC is not comparable as it is not a locked or controlled ecosystem by nature. Specific services within the PC ecosystem can be locked and controlled, but that's the point; they're optional and this itself is the competitive business. Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo compete with hardware space via software. The PC business is different, and instead publishers generally compete with services via software. And these services can be applied to any number of hardware configurations and designs that do not benefit the service provider/publisher with a monetary return.
Microsoft wants you to buy Quantum Break on Xbox One, because the assumption is that if you buy an Xbox One you probably game a lot on consoles, and they want you gaming in their console instead of the similar PlayStation 4 ecosystem, given a majority of software is a crossover between the two. Meanwhile people who game primarily on PC generally don't see the consoles as competitors, but instead a separate ecosystem. They might buy an Xbox One exclusively to play Quantum Break, but that's likely going to be where it begins and ends, sans other Xbox One exclusives. In short, they won't buy into the entire console software ecosystem, as they're already invested in one.
By providing "Xbox One exclusive" games on PC they are competing as a service, not as a platform, in an ecosystem that is all about services and not platforms.
Microsoft/Sony/Nintendo exclusives make sense as business as you the customer are buying into a locked hardware ecosystem financed and controlled by the parent company. You adhere to their rules, their services, their design, and in return receive access to buying exclusive software. Buying an Xbox/PlayStation/WiiU is like buying a hardware license to further purchase very specific software. Ergo the bread and butter of this business, that being gaming hardware, is to provide said software as exclusives to tempt a long term investment in the hardware itself.
The reality is that PC is not comparable as it is not a locked or controlled ecosystem by nature. Specific services within the PC ecosystem can be locked and controlled, but that's the point; they're optional and this itself is the competitive business. Sony/Microsoft/Nintendo compete with hardware space via software. The PC business is different, and instead publishers generally compete with services via software. And these services can be applied to any number of hardware configurations and designs that do not benefit the service provider/publisher with a monetary return.
Microsoft wants you to buy Quantum Break on Xbox One, because the assumption is that if you buy an Xbox One you probably game a lot on consoles, and they want you gaming in their console instead of the similar PlayStation 4 ecosystem, given a majority of software is a crossover between the two. Meanwhile people who game primarily on PC generally don't see the consoles as competitors, but instead a separate ecosystem. They might buy an Xbox One exclusively to play Quantum Break, but that's likely going to be where it begins and ends, sans other Xbox One exclusives. In short, they won't buy into the entire console software ecosystem, as they're already invested in one.
By providing "Xbox One exclusive" games on PC they are competing as a service, not as a platform, in an ecosystem that is all about services and not platforms.
BibiMaghoo
Member
In fairness sometimes they are, and people here do. Certainly not mostly though/
AnthonypUK
Member
Xbox One reveal.
Does MS even make money with a sold X1? There were some insane bundles and prices lately so I think it doesn't matter where people buy those games.
Kudo
Member
Most people I know buy consoles for exclusives, and Remedy being close to our heart this is great news to us.
I think I have over 30 friends on PSN that bought PS4 for Destiny and Bloodborne, so people saying "Pc gamers aren't exactly the crowd they're marketing Xbox One to" feels really weird to me.
I think I have over 30 friends on PSN that bought PS4 for Destiny and Bloodborne, so people saying "Pc gamers aren't exactly the crowd they're marketing Xbox One to" feels really weird to me.
VE3TRO
Formerly Gizmowned
It's up on the Xbox store to pre-order.
UK Release date: 05/04/2016 - £44.99
https://store.xbox.com/en-GB/Xbox-One/Games/Quantum-Break/23630687-fad2-4cc8-8cfc-6f213b808b4f
US Release date: 4/5/2016 - $59.99
https://store.xbox.com/en-US/Xbox-One/Games/Quantum-Break/23630687-fad2-4cc8-8cfc-6f213b808b4f
UK Release date: 05/04/2016 - £44.99
https://store.xbox.com/en-GB/Xbox-One/Games/Quantum-Break/23630687-fad2-4cc8-8cfc-6f213b808b4f
US Release date: 4/5/2016 - $59.99
https://store.xbox.com/en-US/Xbox-One/Games/Quantum-Break/23630687-fad2-4cc8-8cfc-6f213b808b4f
Yes. Because i am not a PC gamer. And dont want to spend alot of money for a high end system and love to ease of use of a console.
Pantaghana
Member
Sony and Nintendo don't release their games on PC because no one expects them to.
No one expects them to, because they don't own the platform.
And they don't have a history of making statements how much they love the platform and promises of upcoming support.
Microsoft owns Windows, the most popular OS on the planet, and makes constant claims that they love PC as a gaming platform and how they have "so many things planned."
While they should know better, people form certain expectations.
You are acting like large companies don't make mistakes, ms is in this position because very smart people running Xbox serverly misjudged the entire market so I'm not going to hang my hat on them getting every move right.
twinturbo2
butthurt Heat fan
This whole thing raises more questions than answers for me, and I hope there's a more concrete strategy in place. There's a meme going around amongst some people that MS is acting like a wounded feral animal here, and letting games have day-and-date releases on PC doesn't help that at all.
I'd just like a long-term plan on getting out of that hole they dug themselves into, they had it going, but now? I'm not so sure.
Preload seems also to be live (which is just 101MB as it seems?)
They don't have a dominant OS with a store to leverage and can more easily reach, compete, control and profit from dedicated hardware with their ecosystem.
That is the big thing for me, and would be a pretty big signal of big changes.
IMO, it is a good move. If they are serious about the windows store, they need to give people reasons to use it such as lower prices, deep OS integration, and exclusive content. Get people dipping their toes, and then they might dive in.
Dictator93
Member
Sure they make mistakes, the biggest one ever was the xb1 reveal, so I understand your trepidation. I was just trying to make a guess at why there could be a logic here.
hmmmm, I dont see the Alan Wake Pre-order bonus mentioned there, and that info was on GameStar article as well
ISee
Member
Exclusive games are always a reason to buy a system. For me, as a PC player, it's even the only reason (I only own a ps4 because of infamous, bloodborne and some other exclusives I'm looking forward to). So yes you're right this doesn't seem to make sense especially in the UK and north america. But in all other regions (or most of them) the xbox one seems to be doing 'not too great', even a heavy hitter like Halo 5 (I think it's way more important than QB) didn't help to boost sales. So overall I do not think this is going to really hurt the xbox brand and a wider audience pool might help them to build a fan foundation and help promoting the tv show (still a thing?). And in the long run this might be more important.
EDIT:
Seriously is the TV show still coming?
That news might come later today. If.
Just a license. The real preload comes when the game goes gold. Wich is probably in a month or so.
GeordieMark
Member
This is it. They see Xbox as a platform, and not just a console.
Microsoft are looking at the bigger picture, whereas a lot of posts here are still stuck in console war mentality
Zeouterlimits
Member
PC? Niiice.